I discovered that posting this morning, too. I think it's KIP that is 
overreacting by 
removing ALL grotto newsletters; the issue was just raised in the past few days 
by Huntsville, based on a member who discovered the KIP trove and worried 
about sensitive info in older issues. I'm not aware of any other recent 
complaints.

I'm in their Yahoo group, and responded that they should instead redact any 
sensitive info (which I suspect is very little). It's a large chore, but easy 
enough to 
do.

Most, if not all, of the 351 HG issues online were sent in by Windy City (Bill 
Mixon) and not HG, which may be the cause of the kerfuffle.

I've written to KIP Liaison Todd Chavez, urging him to drag his feet on the 
removal until we can calm the waters.

Hopefully we can preempt this, and your efforts (and Bill's and mine) will not 
have been in vain.

On 10 Dec 2014 at 10:03, Mark Minton via Texascavers wrote:

From:                   Mark Minton via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com>
To:                     texascavers@texascavers.com
Date sent:              Wed, 10 Dec 2014 10:03:45 -0500
Send reply to:          texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject:                [Texascavers] Karst Information Portal

> George,
> 
>    According to the Karst Information Portal home page, grotto newsletters
> are soon to be withdrawn from open access. That seems like addressing
> the potential problem of location information with a sledgehammer.
> What's the point of having things on KIP if no one can get to them?
> Maybe they should be put into a special "members only" area where NSS
> members can log in with their NSS number and some other credentials to
> see the newsletters. I've been actively promoting editors to make their
> newsletters available through KIP and many have agreed. Now that all
> looks like it might have been for naught. :-(
> 
> Mark




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