When they ask ahead of actually donating, it's a tacit request. That becomes my 
problem.

Jerry.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 23, 2016, at 3:57 PM, Rafal Kedzierski via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> If someone is philanthropic in order to gain access to the cave, that's a 
> wrong reason for generosity - but that's his/her issue, not yours. If someone 
> is taken through the cave as a thank you for helping to preserve an 
> incredible resource, that's your way of expressing generosity - not the issue 
> of the donor. 
> 
> RK
> 
> ----------------------------------------
>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:05:24 -0600
>> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Powell's Cave Gate Project update :
>> From: texascavers@texascavers.com
>> 
>> Rafal,
>> 
>> I'm not comfortable with donations for the greater good becoming 
>> entitlements for special privileges. It would be unfortunate if that becomes 
>> the principal reason for being philanthropic.
>> 
>> As for resurveying Powell's Cave, there have been two survey projects of the 
>> cave since the early 1960s, and one fairly decent map made of the cave. 
>> Unfortunately, past efforts used whoever showed up at trips as survey teams, 
>> with little to no quality control of survey standards. The result was a 
>> mish-mash of excellent to awful surveys that was nearly impossible to 
>> compile into a good map. Any future effort will require a different strategy 
>> that may be too difficult to complete given the lack of project leaders and 
>> cartographers we have today.
>> 
>> Jerry.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 23, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Rafal Kedzierski via Texascavers 
>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Further along those lines, do donors get a special thank you trip:)?
>>> 
>>> When does the longest mostly dry cave in Texas get a more perfect survey 
>>> project and map?
>>> 
>>> RK
>>> 
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>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:55:00 +0000
>>>> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Powell's Cave Gate Project update :
>>>> From: texascavers@texascavers.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> How do we send in a contribution? Is there somewhere online I can donate?
>>>> 
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>>>> On 2016-06-22 20:32, Jerry via Texascavers wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Powell's Cave Gate Project update
>>>> 
>>>> Jim Kennedy and company have finished the gate on Powell's Cave, and
>>>> now it's time to pay for it. As you can see from the accompanying
>>>> graph, we've received $1200 of the approximately $2500 that has been
>>>> pledged thus far. Many thanks to all that have sent in their donations
>>>> or pledged to help! - If you haven't sent in your pledged donation,
>>>> please do so at your earliest convenience so we can pay the bills.
>>>> 
>>>> The graph also shows that we are about $800 shy of our goal. If you are
>>>> thinking of helping out on the gate project, please do so at this time.
>>>> Help support our continuing efforts to protect both the cave and its
>>>> bats, and to demonstrate our commitment to the landowner.
>>>> 
>>>> Jerry Atkinson
>>>> Powell's Cave Landowner Liaison
>>>> 
>>>> 
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