Diana, I asked the same question but the response did not fully benefit the donor or the donee so I sent the money without the benefit of a tax deduction. Fritz Holt fritz...@ail.com
Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 23, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Diana Tomchick via Texascavers > <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > > If you would like to get a company or private donor interested in donating > large sums of money, it would help if the donors knew they could use it as a > deduction on their federal income taxes. > > Which leads me to ask once again (since the first time I asked this question > it went unanswered), what would it take to make a donation to the Powell’s > Cave gating project tax deductible? The last time I checked the web site, the > Texas Speleological Survey is a registered 501(c)(3) organization, both Jim > Kennedy and Jerry Atkinson are Director.s Was there no way that the money > couldn’t have been donated to the TSS, which would then use the money to fund > the protection of Powell’s Cave? Or failing that, through the TCMA? > > Why do we have these organizations in Texas if they can’t be used to leverage > donations to protect these important resources? > > Diana > > ************************************************** > Diana R. Tomchick > Professor > Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry > University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center > 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. > Rm. ND10.214A > Dallas, TX 75390-8816 > diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu > (214) 645-6383 (phone) > (214) 645-6353 (fax) > >> On Jun 23, 2016, at 6:09 PM, texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: >> >> What did you assume that isn't true? >> >> Caves and karst in Texas are an incredible resource that should be protected >> and set aside - the case for which should be easily made especially when >> one considers lack of green space as compared to American East and West. If >> Texas cavers could reach around and outside of its own community, get >> funding from private donors, one could not only gate dozens of habitat >> sensitive caves but also set up a network of karst preserves. For goodness >> sake, there are 54 SP500 companies headquarters in Texas! All that takes is >> ability to share your vision with others, show them the resource you are >> trying to protect and reasons why. And yes, sometimes take them above and >> below the ground, get their hands dirty. >> >> And your concern is a nonexistent moral dilemma? >> >> RK >> >>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 16:37:30 -0600 >>> To: texascavers@texascavers.com >>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Powell's Cave Gate Project update : >>> From: texascavers@texascavers.com >>> >>> Then why did you ask, for Pete's sake ? >>> >>> Jerry. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 23, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Rafal Kedzierski via Texascavers >>>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> No change in my statement. If someone is philanthropic in order to gain >>>> access to the cave, that's a >>>> wrong reason for generosity - but that's his/her issue, not yours. If >>>> someone is taken through the cave as a thank you for helping to preserve >>>> an incredible resource, that's your way of expressing generosity - not >>>> the issue of the donor. >>>> >>>> RK >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------- >>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 16:18:37 -0600 >>>>> To: texascavers@texascavers.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Powell's Cave Gate Project update : >>>>> From: texascavers@texascavers.com >>>>> >>>>> When they ask ahead of actually donating, it's a tacit request. That >>>>> becomes my problem. >>>>> >>>>> Jerry. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 23, 2016, at 3:57 PM, Rafal Kedzierski via Texascavers >>>>>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> If someone is philanthropic in order to gain access to the cave, that's >>>>>> a wrong reason for generosity - but that's his/her issue, not yours. If >>>>>> someone is taken through the cave as a thank you for helping to preserve >>>>>> an incredible resource, that's your way of expressing generosity - not >>>>>> the issue of the donor. >>>>>> >>>>>> RK >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------- >>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:05:24 -0600 >>>>>>> To: texascavers@texascavers.com >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Powell's Cave Gate Project update : >>>>>>> From: texascavers@texascavers.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rafal, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not comfortable with donations for the greater good becoming >>>>>>> entitlements for special privileges. It would be unfortunate if that >>>>>>> becomes the principal reason for being philanthropic. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As for resurveying Powell's Cave, there have been two survey projects >>>>>>> of the cave since the early 1960s, and one fairly decent map made of >>>>>>> the cave. Unfortunately, past efforts used whoever showed up at trips >>>>>>> as survey teams, with little to no quality control of survey standards. >>>>>>> The result was a mish-mash of excellent to awful surveys that was >>>>>>> nearly impossible to compile into a good map. Any future effort will >>>>>>> require a different strategy that may be too difficult to complete >>>>>>> given the lack of project leaders and cartographers we have today. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jerry. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Rafal Kedzierski via Texascavers >>>>>>>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Further along those lines, do donors get a special thank you trip:)? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When does the longest mostly dry cave in Texas get a more perfect >>>>>>>> survey project and map? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> RK >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:55:00 +0000 >>>>>>>>> To: texascavers@texascavers.com >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Powell's Cave Gate Project update : >>>>>>>>> From: texascavers@texascavers.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How do we send in a contribution? Is there somewhere online I can >>>>>>>>> donate? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> Dessie Pierce, MA >>>>>>>>> Licensed Professional Counselor >>>>>>>>> Licensed Chemical Dependency Counselor >>>>>>>>> Certified Clinical Trauma Professional >>>>>>>>> 11999 Katy Freeway >>>>>>>>> Suite 509 >>>>>>>>> Houston, TX 77079 >>>>>>>>> phone: 832-735-0065 >>>>>>>>> cell: 832-341-8880 >>>>>>>>> des...@dessiep.com<mailto:des...@dessiep.com> >>>>>>>>> dessiep.com >>>>>>>>> It is important to be aware that e-mail communication can be >>>>>>>>> relatively >>>>>>>>> easily accessed by unauthorized people and therefore can compromise >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> privacy and confidentiality of such communication. Please notify me >>>>>>>>> (Dessie Pierce) if you decide to avoid or limit in anyway the use of >>>>>>>>> email. Please do not use email for emergencies. Any advice given >>>>>>>>> without a contract for professional services does not constitute >>>>>>>>> counseling in any manner and should not be relied upon. Information >>>>>>>>> contained within and accompanying this message is confidential, >>>>>>>>> intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If >>>>>>>>> the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are >>>>>>>>> hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this >>>>>>>>> message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in >>>>>>>>> error, please immediately notify me by telephone at 832-735-0065 or >>>>>>>>> return the email and purge all copies of this message from your >>>>>>>>> system. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2016-06-22 20:32, Jerry via Texascavers wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Powell's Cave Gate Project update >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jim Kennedy and company have finished the gate on Powell's Cave, and >>>>>>>>> now it's time to pay for it. As you can see from the accompanying >>>>>>>>> graph, we've received $1200 of the approximately $2500 that has been >>>>>>>>> pledged thus far. Many thanks to all that have sent in their donations >>>>>>>>> or pledged to help! - If you haven't sent in your pledged donation, >>>>>>>>> please do so at your earliest convenience so we can pay the bills. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The graph also shows that we are about $800 shy of our goal. If you >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> thinking of helping out on the gate project, please do so at this >>>>>>>>> time. >>>>>>>>> Help support our continuing efforts to protect both the cave and its >>>>>>>>> bats, and to demonstrate our commitment to the landowner. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jerry Atkinson >>>>>>>>> Powell's Cave Landowner Liaison >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>>>>>>>> Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | >>>>>>>>> Archives: >>>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/<http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers%40texascavers.com/> >>>>>>>>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing >>>>>>>>> list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>>>>>>>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>>>>>>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>>>>>>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>>>>>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>>>>>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>>>>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>>>>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>>>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>>>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > ________________________________ > > UT Southwestern > > > Medical Center > > > > The future of medicine, today. > > > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
