No change in my statement. If someone is philanthropic in order to gain access to the cave, that's a wrong reason for generosity - but that's his/her issue, not yours. If someone is taken through the cave as a thank you for helping to preserve an incredible resource, that's your way of expressing generosity - not the issue of the donor.
RK ---------------------------------------- > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 16:18:37 -0600 > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Powell's Cave Gate Project update : > From: texascavers@texascavers.com > > When they ask ahead of actually donating, it's a tacit request. That becomes > my problem. > > Jerry. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 23, 2016, at 3:57 PM, Rafal Kedzierski via Texascavers > <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > >> If someone is philanthropic in order to gain access to the cave, that's a >> wrong reason for generosity - but that's his/her issue, not yours. If >> someone is taken through the cave as a thank you for helping to preserve an >> incredible resource, that's your way of expressing generosity - not the >> issue of the donor. >> >> RK >> >> ---------------------------------------- >>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:05:24 -0600 >>> To: texascavers@texascavers.com >>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Powell's Cave Gate Project update : >>> From: texascavers@texascavers.com >>> >>> Rafal, >>> >>> I'm not comfortable with donations for the greater good becoming >>> entitlements for special privileges. It would be unfortunate if that >>> becomes the principal reason for being philanthropic. >>> >>> As for resurveying Powell's Cave, there have been two survey projects of >>> the cave since the early 1960s, and one fairly decent map made of the cave. >>> Unfortunately, past efforts used whoever showed up at trips as survey >>> teams, with little to no quality control of survey standards. The result >>> was a mish-mash of excellent to awful surveys that was nearly impossible to >>> compile into a good map. Any future effort will require a different >>> strategy that may be too difficult to complete given the lack of project >>> leaders and cartographers we have today. >>> >>> Jerry. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jun 23, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Rafal Kedzierski via Texascavers >>> <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Further along those lines, do donors get a special thank you trip:)? >>>> >>>> When does the longest mostly dry cave in Texas get a more perfect survey >>>> project and map? >>>> >>>> RK >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:55:00 +0000 >>>>> To: texascavers@texascavers.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Powell's Cave Gate Project update : >>>>> From: texascavers@texascavers.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> How do we send in a contribution? Is there somewhere online I can donate? >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Dessie Pierce, MA >>>>> Licensed Professional Counselor >>>>> Licensed Chemical Dependency Counselor >>>>> Certified Clinical Trauma Professional >>>>> 11999 Katy Freeway >>>>> Suite 509 >>>>> Houston, TX 77079 >>>>> phone: 832-735-0065 >>>>> cell: 832-341-8880 >>>>> des...@dessiep.com<mailto:des...@dessiep.com> >>>>> dessiep.com >>>>> It is important to be aware that e-mail communication can be relatively >>>>> easily accessed by unauthorized people and therefore can compromise the >>>>> privacy and confidentiality of such communication. Please notify me >>>>> (Dessie Pierce) if you decide to avoid or limit in anyway the use of >>>>> email. Please do not use email for emergencies. Any advice given >>>>> without a contract for professional services does not constitute >>>>> counseling in any manner and should not be relied upon. Information >>>>> contained within and accompanying this message is confidential, >>>>> intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If >>>>> the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are >>>>> hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this >>>>> message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in >>>>> error, please immediately notify me by telephone at 832-735-0065 or >>>>> return the email and purge all copies of this message from your system. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2016-06-22 20:32, Jerry via Texascavers wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Powell's Cave Gate Project update >>>>> >>>>> Jim Kennedy and company have finished the gate on Powell's Cave, and >>>>> now it's time to pay for it. As you can see from the accompanying >>>>> graph, we've received $1200 of the approximately $2500 that has been >>>>> pledged thus far. Many thanks to all that have sent in their donations >>>>> or pledged to help! - If you haven't sent in your pledged donation, >>>>> please do so at your earliest convenience so we can pay the bills. >>>>> >>>>> The graph also shows that we are about $800 shy of our goal. If you are >>>>> thinking of helping out on the gate project, please do so at this time. >>>>> Help support our continuing efforts to protect both the cave and its >>>>> bats, and to demonstrate our commitment to the landowner. >>>>> >>>>> Jerry Atkinson >>>>> Powell's Cave Landowner Liaison >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>>>> Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/<http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers%40texascavers.com/> >>>>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing >>>>> list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>>>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > _______________________________________________ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers _______________________________________________ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
