That said, it is often the case that the relative value of an article is 
inversely proportional to the number of authors cited. Given the current frenzy 
to publish and be recognized for Pd work, it would not be surprising if the 
number of authors exceeded the length of the article.

Jerry Atkinson.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Geary Schindel via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Diana,
> 
> Very well said, I was thinking of replying also but you hit the nail on the 
> head. Most research these days are a collaboration between many scientists 
> and laboratories. I think the best example I've seen is some of the Super 
> Collider work that might have 150 authors for a paper. 
> 
> Geary Schindel
> gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org  
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of 
> Diana Tomchick via Texascavers
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:16 PM
> To: Cave Tex <texascavers@texascavers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article
> 
> Let me clarify what constitutes authorship on a scientific article.
> 
> It does not necessarily mean that a person wrote one of the paragraphs. In 
> fact, in the future we may have artificial intelligence to thank for writing 
> much of the routine text in our articles and technical manuals.
> 
> It DOES mean that an author is a person that is responsible for one or more 
> of the following:
> 
> Coming up with the original idea (i.e., the hypothesis) for the experiment 
> Collecting data Analyzing data Presenting data (in graphical, written or 
> other forms such as videos, etc.) Supervising the people that collect, 
> analyze and present the data Drawing important conclusions from the data and 
> testing new hypotheses that result from this all-important step Writing the 
> text of the final document
> 
> You want and NEED all of these people to be listed as authors—as they are the 
> ones that are legitimately responsible for the final published work. If there 
> are any questions about what is presented in the work, everyone knows who is 
> responsible.
> 
> We call this transparency, which unfortunately is lacking in other important 
> human endeavors.
> 
> Diana
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>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:59 AM, Cavers Texas <texascavers@texascavers.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow! Fourteen alleged authors for an article with eight paragraphs. 
>> How many of those people do you think were really authors, i.e., 
>> writers? How many of them were just bottle washers? -- Mixon
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