I've been to every TCR for the 8 years I have been caving and the food has been 
good. Thanks to all that have cooked!  Yes there will always be some dish 
someone does not like. And we have moved around but paradise is the best we 
have had in that time. I think yall are missing the point of TCR, IT DOES NOT 
MATTER WHERE IT IS HELD. It is about getting the community together so we can 
catch up on what's has been going on over the past year. We can do that in the 
middle of a cow patty. But at least Don has done a mighty fine job making sure 
we have water to swim in, showers, bathrooms or porta-johns, nice camp sites, 
ect. I'm personally tierd of everyone picking on each other. We are sopposed to 
be a FAMILY!   If you have a problem with someone or something, talk to that 
person privately.  It only makes you look like a ASSHOLE to publicly blast that 
person.That's just my two sense. 


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From: via Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> 
Date: 2/8/17  6:49 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
To: texascavers@texascavers.com 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 39th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion 

Well said, Diana !  OMW gets his hackles up every now and again but it's not 
meant to be overly critical I don't think. Picks on poor Locklear too much, 
though.
Jerry.

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On Feb 8, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Diana Tomchick via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:


Actually, Charlie spent some time in the DFW Grotto camping area at last year’s 
TCR talking to Bill Steele and I.



Sometimes you have to let the grumpy old men have their say and be nice about 
it. As a woman, I’ve had to live by that mantra for a very long, long time.



Diana



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On Feb 8, 2017, at 6:31 PM, TSA Cavers <texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:






On Feb 8, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
<texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:





Why are we stuck at Paradise Canyon?






Charles, get over it. Paradise Canyon agreed to a good price if we kept TCR 
there for the next 5 years. If no one hasn't noticed things are getting more 
expensive these days. If you can find a better price than what we are currently 
paying with
 as many amenities, showers, river, electricity, bathrooms, ice, picnic tables, 
porto-potties, nice green manicured camping, Lodges with baths and A/C. What 
are you griping about, we haven’t seen you there in some time anyway. Besides 
weren’t you happy there
 was LODGING with A/C there? I distinctly remember you asking about it.





The OTR used to be fun when it moved around.





Well, this isn’t OTR.




Now it is in a rut. Paradise Canyon is OK but to me it is incredibly boring 
after the tenth time. I recall the first one where I and a few other cooked at 
Luckenbach. Then a lot of places all over Central Texas. Now it is stuck, dead
 in the water.





Dead? Are you volunteering to honcho it up? I’d be happy to turn it over to 
you. Just say the word and it’s all yours.




OK I was chief cook for 20 years and has a myriad of volunteer  people  who 
were involved in cooking. We had a rule for our volunteer cooks and there were 
about 35  or 40 of them. The rule was cook what you want but cook, but enough. 
Enough was
 a nebulous figure. We had tons of corn on the cob from the valley. Fish from 
Galveston, A roast pig, brisket, beef clod, chicken, turkey, hot links from 
Fredericksburg, bean salad, fruit salad, salad salad, black beans, refried 
beans, tortillas, pie, cake,
 cookies, a million brownies, chicken, Hatch chilis, gazpacho. all manner of 
stuff, we once had quail, and the people gobbled it up. 





Great! Since we lost our cook last year, it sounds like you would be the 
perfect head cook. Are you volunteering? That menu sounds awesome, go ahead and 
purchase the stuff and get me a reciept and I’ll put you down as head cook. HEY 
EVERBODY! IGOR IS OUR NEW
 HEAD COOK! WOOO!!




All prepared by THE CAVER COOKS for the fun of cooking it. That tradition has 
died it would seem. Maybe caver don't cook anymore? Not sure why but the old 
cooks never got any new cooks to volunteer to take the reins. 





Well, seeing you haven't come to a -TCR- (Texas Cavers Reunion, been named that 
for only the last THIRTY EIGHT YEARS) you have totally missed out on some fine 
cooking by the experts we have that ACTUALLY STEPPED UP and VOLUNTEERED. Stefan 
and
 Vico and the rest of the COOKS have done an awesome and thankless job for 
everybody. But of course your stepping up will easily surpass their cooking, 
no? We look forward to it!




Maybe there was a great loss in cooking ability. I hate to say this but I 
haven't eaten the meal at OTR is four years. I am not sure why because I pay 
for it, but the last one just didn't meet my expectations. I apologize to those 
who worked so
 hard and long but what is, is and I am a dyed in the wool food Nazi. We didn't 
need a food trailer to cook in we just built fires and got after it.





Well that's just awesome, good for you. Sorry you’ll be disappointed for the 
next five years. Maybe you should just keep staying home.





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