I took a look around one day recently after reading something about someone’s lamp collection, and counted 13 in one room, also some big handled ceiling burners, and somewhere else some train lanterns! Modest per some collections, but all were used! Lol Anything we do someday I will decide after talking with Jim and daughter Amy. Jim said one lamp he did not have was a Butterfly? I did not care as long as it got me in and out of the cave! We have old climbing gear, ascending and descending, rope, not our really old helmets though ☹️ Wish I had kept mine like Carl Kunath’s. Of course as a bookbinder Jim created his own unique bound survey notebooks and pages, and some special things are in boxes created and stamped just for them! Of course all our mags are bound up until just a few years ago. He had one commercial and two or more home made by him cable ladders we gave to a friend a while back from Bexar Grotto to use or loan out as he saw fit. After giving Bill S. all that carbide and another small jar to one of Pete Strickland’s boys, not sure how much is left. Whatever we have that I do not want to keep will find good homes or be auctioned off to benefit TCMA and/or TSS for sure, and just might round up something for an NSS display Geary. Might even still have some maps no one else has from long ago? Only my cave man knows for sure there 😊 So many memories ❤️
Oh, and I think Jim still has one or more original leather cases for his Bruntons, and we even had one repaired at one time I believe! Oh my, and that Total Photo Computer disk he and someone else developed for accurate photo exposure before cameras became more sophisticated? I had forgotten about that little invention! Lol I am making too much future work for myself with this! Go caving, and stay safe and be well! Mimi Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 31, 2022, at 4:11 PM, Geary Schindel <gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org> > wrote: > > Mimi, > > I think it would be nice to have you donate one of your carbide lamps to the > NSS Museum. One for both you and Jim. We are getting a bunch of new display > cases and they are looking to put out items from our many noteworthy members. > > Thanks, > > Geary Schindel > > From: Texascavers <texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com> On Behalf Of Linda > Starr > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2022 3:51 PM > To: Mimi Jasek <mjca...@gmail.com> > Cc: Texascavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>; John Lyles > <j...@losalamos.com>; N E W L I S T Southwestern Cavers of the National > Speleological Society <swrcav...@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Suunto repair > > External Email > Mimi, > You should donate your carbide and carbide lamps to some grotto that will use > them, maybe for a carbide-specific grotto trip, as the Sandia Grotto may be > planning. Just a suggestion. Take it or leave it and > Take care, > Linda Starr > > On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 7:50 PM Mimi Jasek <mjca...@gmail.com> wrote: > I’m with you Pete. Jim never went to Suunto - always Brunton. But then he did > not do much wet cave surveying, nor deep vertical stuff. Although he will > never go caving again, we still have lots of carbide lamps and some carbide, > along with our LED lights. I still love that smell! Lol > > Mimi Jasek > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 30, 2022, at 8:26 PM, P Lindsley <caverp...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Brunton’s also work well, but there is hardly anyone left that knows how to > use one. > > Years ago 5 of us were surveying a mile in a wet suit stream passage in > Colossal Cave, Ky. Roger Brucker and Alan Hill went to the “end” to survey > back, Art & Peg Palmer and myself started surveying “in”. We made good time > and bragged about it when we met the other team. Their story was that the > Brunton was dropped in a muddy pool, too muddy to see the instrument. When > they finally fished it out of the drink it was full of water. But they used > their carbide lights to boil out the water, and when dry enough they started > surveying. Can’t do that today with LED lights. > > My 3 Brunton’s still work, long ago my 3-4 Suuntos clouded up and were no > longer useful. > > - Pete > > On Jan 30, 2022, at 1:20 PM, John Lyles <j...@losalamos.com> wrote: > > George, thanks for sharing this. Ben Meadows and FS used to be competitors. > I'm glad at least one is still going. I just tossed my old hardcopy catalogs > from them the other day. Around 2006 we started noticing that the face of > Suuntos was getting cracked frequently. They had changed to some different > plastic fabrication. It's possible that the earlier ones had a domed lens > where the newer ones were flat. Many cavers started gluing a thin sheet of > transparent polycarbonate over the lens, still admitting light of course. > Another solution was to always keep it in the pouch and add a thin piece or > Micarta or FR4 circuit board material 0.03 or 0.06 thick in the pouch on the > face side. > > The Nat Park at Carlsbad was slow at adopting this approach and those of us > who broke our share of government Suuntos were intimately familiar with the > problem. We carried them in small Otter boxes but it was inevitable that > someone would be shooting a station in a crawl and accidentally crawl to the > next shot with it hanging from neck, to then find that unmistakeable wet spot > on their shirt with that oily fluid. It wasn't abnormal to have one leaking > out of 4 that we took underground on camp trips, so extras were brought > along. I think the CRO had a regular annual budget item repairing them. > > On one trip we took a CRO staffer on the second trip up to OZ in Lechuguilla > Cave. Between three of us we had several Suuntos, despite my suggestion that > we bring extras. I think we managed to kill one, leaking fluid, tried duct > tape, hold it only face up, etc. We managed to survey with a bubble and that > finally changed the reluctance to install plastic guards on the Park's > inventory. > > Disto X2's also benefit from having a thin plastic sheet over the display, as > it can be cracked if pressed face against a rock, to ruin a $500 instrument. > I modified mine and the collection belonging to the Fort Stanton Cave Study > Project. > > John > On Jan 30, 2022, at 10:52 AM, George Veni <gv...@nckri.org> wrote: > While many cavers are now using DistoX2s for surveying, many of us still have > and use Suuntos. I was on trip yesterday and found the face of my Suunto > compass had cracked, creating a large bubble inside the instrument that makes > it hard to use accurately. Years ago, I’d send my Suuntos off to the Ben > Meadow Company for repair. I hadn’t heard of anyone doing that recently, so I > looked into it and am posting this note in case anyone finds it helpful. > > > > > Ben Meadows is now part of Forestry Suppliers. And they do repair Suunto > compasses and clinometers (among other things) for about $100 less than > buying a new one. For more information, go to > https://www.forestry-suppliers.com/RepairList.php. > > > > > George > > > > > ******************** > > > George Veni, PhD > > > Executive Director, National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) > > > and > > > President, International Union of Speleology (UIS) > > > > > NCKRI address (primary) > > > 400-1 Cascades Avenue > > > Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220 USA > > > Office: +575-887-5517 > > > Mobile: +210-863-5919 > > > Fax: +575-887-5523 > > > gv...@nckri.org > > > www.nckri.org > > > > > UIS address > > > Titov trg 2 > > > Postojna, 6230 Slovenia > > > www.uis-speleo.org > > > www.iyck2021.org > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to swrcavers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/swrcavers/fb6b1c7a-3aee-46eb-8ee4-e6e02bda0664%40losalamos.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to swrcavers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/swrcavers/0A3F73C2-444D-4093-BBF9-BB96999349AA%40gmail.com. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Southwestern Cavers of the National Speleological Society" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to swrcavers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/swrcavers/49D4621B-6D5C-462B-9A30-12F004F3CFEA%40gmail.com. > Don't click links or attachments unless you know they're safe. > - EAA Helpdesk
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