The old haggard does not know that he has a foot in his mouth? Muttale  The
VR speaks only about dasaratha calling for yagna to beget children and as
you spun for drought etc  Don't remove your foot and cry over and be
ashamed KR

On Sun, 5 May 2024 at 22:05, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear folks
>
> Caught with his foot in his mouth yet again for the umpteenth time, the
> super-faker cannot distinguish between Dasharatha Chakravarthy the emperor,
> and the ruler of little Anga desam.
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 10:33 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Oldman kicks himself? How can he say as a rev learned that dasaratha?
>> Dasaratha connection ids different; and Anga  desam is different. Accept
>> old man you are down with your memory KR
>>
>> On Sun, 5 May 2024 at 21:19, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dear folks
>>>
>>> One can always depend on a notorious bluffologist and super-faker for
>>> calling the kettle black, when his own pot badly needs keeling.
>>>
>>> The torrent of nonsense boldly headed "*KR  -- ONE MORE FAKE FOLKLORE*"
>>> is no exception.
>>>
>>> The super-faker juggles what he recalls about the conflicting accounts
>>> in the mahaa-bhaaratham and about the raamaayanam and -- despite splitting
>>> fine hairs and despite copy-pasting extensively, irrelevant rubbish from
>>> other sources -- fails dismally to disprove the core truth which I was
>>> illustrating, i.e.* faith, and the proper performance of appropriat
>>> vedic rituals, can overcome and alter natural phenomena like drought.*
>>>
>>> The story of avowed strict brahmachaari rishya-shringa -- kidnapped
>>> under false pretences by employing courtesans steeped in immorality --
>>> bringing rain to a parched land, whether called Anga territory ruled by
>>> Romapa or an empire ruled by Dasaratha, is a mere legend related to
>>> Dasarstha's charioteer by Sanat Kumara.
>>>
>>> The common link is not disputed:-
>>>
>>> "*Sage Rishyasringa is also a son-in-law to King Dasharatha. Princess
>>> Shanta, in a distant relationship is a daughter to King Dasharatha in
>>> relation and the adopted daughter of Romapaada**, the King of Anga.
>>> Thus, Sumantra's saying son-in-law also means Dasharatha's son-in-law,
>>> besides Romapada’s.*"
>>>
>>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 10:16 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> CULTURAL QA 05202405
>>>>
>>>> Q1           What are the stories of Lord Krishna that give you
>>>> goosebumps?
>>>>
>>>> KR          Thank God Trivandrum doctor was not asked to explain this
>>>> phenomenon!!!   Disk prolapse in 3 months cured By Krishna -may not be a
>>>> FAKE NEWS?  Faith MAY even move the mountain. However, if it’s a real
>>>> prolapse, had that Doctor sent messages all over, Chandrasekar my friend
>>>> could have been cured. Is there media news?  Can Goose bump? See below NB.
>>>> ***
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Q2           When did aluminium become cheap?
>>>>
>>>> KR           Yes correct; Before this breakthrough, aluminium was
>>>> considered a luxury item, and it was even used to cap the Washington
>>>> Monument in the United States as a symbol of wealth and prestige.
>>>> However, once the Hall-Héroult process was introduced, aluminium
>>>> became much more abundant and its price dropped significantly, making it
>>>> widely available for various industrial and consumer applications.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Q4           When Shri Krishna returned after the war of Mahabharata,
>>>> Rukmani, was filled with anger and questioned him. Why?
>>>>
>>>> KR            ONE MORE FAKE FOLKLORE
>>>>
>>>> ***NB    1     Can faith move mountains? If we see commercial on liners
>>>> advertising as honest, will give only the positive descriptions; and then
>>>> as if waiting, their own 3 or 4 people will eulogise that product and there
>>>> will be one harsh comment too. Thereafter it is rare any other purchasers
>>>> added any comments at all. But the consumers are attracted and rush to buy
>>>> that product. Fake products and Fake advt comments.  And the sales galore
>>>> and mute purchasers. So too, once something is written, immediately if 2
>>>> comments as advt passed, it becomes genuine?
>>>>
>>>> 2        According to the Mahabharata, Vibhandaka, a renowned sage and
>>>> a son of Kashyapa, travels in Mahahrada, when he sees Urvashi, the most
>>>> beautiful apsara (nymph). Aroused, he emits his seed, which fell into the
>>>> river. A doe, who is a cursed apsara, swallows it and becomes pregnant due
>>>> to the sage's miraculous powers. After she gives birth to a boy, she is
>>>> liberated from the curse and returns to heaven. The boy is born with horns
>>>> and because of which, he is named Rishyasringa. Vibhandaka decides to raise
>>>> him isolated from society. Rishyasringa grows up in his father's ashram in
>>>> the forest, unaware of existence of any female. He practices brahmacharya
>>>> and acquires magical and miraculous powers due to his chastity.
>>>>
>>>> 3       Meanwhile, Romapada—the King of Anga—offends a Brahmin, due to
>>>> which no other Brahmin agrees to perform yajna (fire-sacrifice). This
>>>> upsets Indra, the king of the gods, and he stops raining on Anga. As a
>>>> result, the kingdom suffers from drought and famine. Romapada is told
>>>> that the only way to bring rainfall is by bringing a man with perfect
>>>> chastity into the kingdom. Romapada learns of Rishyasringa and despite his
>>>> fear of the power and anger of Vibhandaka, he sends some courtesans to 
>>>> Rishyasringa
>>>> to bring him into his kingdom. During Vibhandaka's absence, the women
>>>> come to his ashram and meet Rishyasringa. They tell him that they were
>>>> hermits. Rishyasringa becomes astonished by seeing their appearance and
>>>> invites them to perform tapas (penance) with him. Before Vibhandaka
>>>> arrives, the women leave the place. Rishyasringa becomes love-sick and
>>>> ignores his daily duties. The next day, the courtesans return and take
>>>> Rishyasringa to Anga. As a result, the kingdom receives bountiful rains and
>>>> Rishyasringa marries Shanta. Much of the story is taken up by accounts of
>>>> the feelings of the young man as he becomes aware of women for the first
>>>> time. {KR so it is not Dasarathan and that day Ayodhya in famine}
>>>>
>>>> 4    The story can be found in both the Ramayana and the Mahabharata.
>>>> According to the Ramayana, Rishyasringa was the chief priest when the King
>>>> Dasharatha performed a yajna to beget progeny, and Rama, Bharata, and the
>>>> twins Lakshmana and Shatrughna were born.
>>>>
>>>>       CORRECT VERSION OF RAMAYANA AND NOT AS STATED BY SOME FAKE
>>>> MEMBER:
>>>>
>>>> Valmiki Ramayana - Bala Kanda in Prose Sarga 9
>>>>
>>>> Sumantra, the minister of King Dasharatha, details the importance of
>>>> Sage Rishyasringa and beseeches the king to invite that sage to preside
>>>> over the contemplated Vedic ritual, for that Sage's entry into any kingdom
>>>> is auspicious for that land and people.Sumantra, the charioteer and one of
>>>> the misters of King Dasharatha, having heard all about the king's desire to
>>>> perform a Vedic ritual, said this in confidence to king, "Oh, king, I will
>>>> tell an early legend, an early legendary narration that I listened... "Oh,
>>>> king, I have earlier heard of this present advice given to you by Vedic
>>>> scholars, as godly Sage Sanatkumara has once narrated an account about the
>>>> arrival of your sons in the presence of other sages, and sage Sanat Kumara
>>>> said... He said that "Sage Kashyapa has a son known as Vibhaandaka, and his
>>>> son will be the renowned Sage Rishyasringa, and that Sage Rishyasringa will
>>>> grow up in forests, and will always be dwelling in forest...
>>>>
>>>>     Here the word used by Sumantra is tava putra aagamam , it renders
>>>> as 'the arrival of your sons', meaning that sons of King Dasharatha arrive
>>>> from Heavens, but not through an ordinary parturition. Even earlier in time
>>>> to that of Dasharatha, Sage Sanatkumara predicted the 'arrival' of Vishnu
>>>> as Rama. The birth-event associated with Rishyasringa’s name is that he is
>>>> born with a horn on the crown of his head. Thus he is named as
>>>> Rishyasringa, i.e., em> R^iSi the Sage; shR^i~Nga horn; a Sage with a horn
>>>> on his forehead at his birth time. This being the mythological import, he
>>>> is an acme among sages, as shR^i~Nga also means a peak."Not knowing others,
>>>> that Brahman the best, namely Rishyasringa, will always be abiding his
>>>> father and he will follow celibacy of two kinds Brahmanical vows namely
>>>> vratitva , praajaapatya ...Or  Not knowing others that Brahman the best,
>>>> will always be abiding his father, lest his renowned celibacy always
>>>> praised by the Brahmans, will be hindered.
>>>>
>>>>     The word dvaividhyam also means two kinds of celibacy, vratitva and
>>>> prajaapatyam. One, as a bachelor and the other after marriage, voluntarily
>>>> distancing away from his wife on certain forbidden days like full moon and
>>>> new moon days, during daytime, eclipses, and other astronomical occurrences
>>>> and some more. This kind of self-imposed celibacy is one way of observing
>>>> sustained family planning methods, instead of resorting to medicaments.
>>>> Here, this word is more nearer to mean 'hindrance', than to mean the 'two
>>>> way celibacy' as deciphered by some commentators.    "In the world he
>>>> becomes famous for his celibacy, oh king, and he will always be praised by
>>>> Brahmans, and thus time will pass on with that kind of his conduct...
>>>> Sage Rishyasringa loses no time with his servitor-ship to the Sacrificial
>>>> Fire and also to his celebrated father, and during this period alone there
>>>> will be a famed and very strong king Romapaada, a valiant in Anga
>>>> country... But by a violation of righteousness of that king there will
>>>> be a shocking and devastating famine in that country... While the
>>>> famine is besetting that king Roamapada will be afflicted with grim, and on
>>>> summoning Brahmans and learned scholars he will address them..." ‘All
>>>> of you are well versed in rituals and knowers of the world history... order
>>>> me how to how the purification from sin will be..." ‘Thus said by king
>>>> those scholarly Brahmans and Vedic scholars will say to the king, 'oh,
>>>> king, son of Sage Vibhaandaka, namely Rishyasringa, is to be fetched by all
>>>> methods...
>>>>
>>>>       "Oh! King, having brought Sage Rishyasringa and honouring him
>>>> well with good care, procedurally give him your daughter Shanta in marriage
>>>> to that Vedic Brahman and the son of Sage Vibhaandaka... On listening them
>>>> the king becomes thoughtful about the idea by which it is possible to bring
>>>> that self-controlled sage to his place...Then that intellectual king
>>>> decides along with ministers, to dispatch clergymen and ministers,
>>>> honouring them well, and then sends them..."They on hearing king's words
>>>> are awestruck and lowering their faces they will say, 'we can not go there
>>>> as we are afraid of sage Vibhandaka, father of Rishyasringa...' After
>>>> thinking over they will say as a second thought, and having found a
>>>> solution with a plan to bring that sage, 'we will fetch that Brahman and
>>>> also by that no stigma will occur...'
>>>>
>>>>       "Thus by the king of Anga kingdom and by his courtesans the son
>>>> of sage Rishyasringa will be brought and the presiding deity for rains will
>>>> showers rains, and Shanta will also be given in marriage to that sage...’
>>>> "Sage Rishyasringa, son-in-law of Romapaada, King of Anga ad as well as to
>>>> you, if invited to our kingdom he will bless you to beget sons, oh! King...
>>>> so said Sage Sanatkumaara to other sages and all this is retold by me."
>>>> Thus the charioteer and the Minister Sumantra completed his narration in
>>>> confidence to King Dasharatha.
>>>>
>>>> Comment: Sage Rishyasringa is also a son-in-law to King Dasharatha.
>>>> Princess Shanta, in a distant relationship is a daughter to King
>>>> Dasharatha in relation and the adopted daughter of Romapaada, the King
>>>> of Anga. Thus, Sumantra's saying son-in-law also means Dasharatha's
>>>> son-in-law, besides Romapada’s.
>>>>
>>>> 5        The Naḷinikā Jātaka (Jā 526) introduces a past life of the
>>>> Buddha, a sage, living alone in the Himālayas. There is semen in the urine
>>>> he passes, a doe who eats the grass in that place gets pregnant from it. A
>>>> human boy named Isisiṅga (Pali) is later born to the deer and he grows
>>>> up in complete seclusion from mankind, and most importantly, from
>>>> womankind. He even doesn't know the difference in the body and appearance
>>>> of the two.The boy's ascetic power becomes so great that it disturbs the
>>>> god Sakka, the lord of heaven, who causes a drought to occur in the country
>>>> and blames it on the boy. He then convinces the King to send his daughter
>>>> to seduce him and to break the austerity of the young seer and to reduce
>>>> his ascetic power. The King and his daughter accept Sakka's reasoning and
>>>> in good faith – and for the benefit of the country – agree to be part of
>>>> the plot The girl dresses up as an ascetic and while the father is away
>>>> gathering roots and fruits in the forest, she manages to seduce the boy,
>>>> who has never seen a woman before. Through their revelling, the boy does
>>>> indeed lose his powers, after which the girl departs. When his father
>>>> returns, the infatuated boy informs him of the girl, only to be instructed
>>>> and rebuked by his father. He then repents for his actions.
>>>>
>>>> 6     Jātaka 523, the Alambusā Jātaka, also recounts a similar story
>>>> of Isisinga, in one other previous life of Bodhisattva. Here, Sakka
>>>> chooses a heavenly nymph to seduce the ascetic. The outcome is the same:
>>>> the sage is seduced, repents and Sakka is thwarted. In response, he grants
>>>> a boon to the seductress.
>>>>
>>>> 7     The story also appears in the Mahāvastu (Jones' translation pp.
>>>> 139–147), but Ekaśr̥ṅga, as he is known here, is the Bodhisattva, and
>>>> Nalinī is a past life of Yaśodharā. A major variation in this version of
>>>> the story is Ekaśr̥ṅga's ignorance of his marriage to the girl. He
>>>> succumbs to worldly responsibilities, eventually becoming king and
>>>> fathering 32 children before retiring again to the forest and regaining his
>>>> former powers.
>>>>
>>>> 8    According to the Tuṅgabhadrāmahātmya which is a division of a
>>>> Mahapuranas,[8] Rishyasringa is regarded to have been born from a place
>>>> near Sringeri in Karnataka. There is an ancient big temple nearby which is
>>>> believed to be the place where he lived before moving to Ayodhya.[9]
>>>> Sringeri is also known as ShringaGiri (Sanskrit: the hills where
>>>> RishyaShringaresided). The Shiva linga with which the sage merged, can be
>>>> seen today at the temple in Kigga.
>>>>
>>>> 9    There is a temple of rishyashringa named 'Chehni fort' situated in
>>>> Banjar tehsil of Kullu District Himachal Pradesh. In Banjar valley,
>>>> Rishyasringa is called "Shringa Rishi" by the locals. An idol of Shringa
>>>> Rishi with the goddess Shanta is present in the temple. This place is about
>>>> 50  km from Kullu. Rishyasringa is the presiding deity of this secluded
>>>> valley named Banjar.
>>>>
>>>> KR        Here was no faith moving the mountain; confused minds believe
>>>> and it is harmless so we do believe.        K RAJARAM   IRS   5524
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 4 May 2024 at 23:41, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> *CULTURAL QA 05-2024-05*
>>>>>
>>>>> *All the BELOW  QA are from  Quora  digest to me   on  05-05-2024.*
>>>>>
>>>>> * Quora answers need not be 100% correct answers *
>>>>>
>>>>> *.Compiled **and posted by R. Gopala krishnan,  on 05-05-2024*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Q1           What are the stories of Lord Krishna that give you
>>>>> goosebumps?*
>>>>>
>>>>> A1           Dr Arsha M Dev, MBBS MD in Bachelor of Medicine and
>>>>> Bachelor of Surgery Degrees, Doctor of Medicine (Graduated 2023)7mo
>>>>>
>>>>> There was a girl who loved Lord Krishna very much from her very young
>>>>> age.She had to face a lot of hardships to reach her dream of becoming a
>>>>> Doctor.Yet she believed in Krishna so much.When her graduation was just a
>>>>> few months away,a terrible back ache occurred.The pain was not subsiding
>>>>> and it progressed to foot drop ( inability to use left foot.This made her
>>>>> walking difficult.The MRI scan revealed that she was having a severe disc
>>>>> prolapse affecting her nerves to the foot which may make her crippled for
>>>>> life.The emergency measure was a surgery.The surgery could save her from
>>>>> complete paralysis of the left leg,but the already occurred neurological
>>>>> damage to the foot was not correctable.
>>>>>
>>>>> The girl was shattered.There was no one to guide her.She herself was a
>>>>> Doctor,so she very well knew the consequences if surgery was not done.She
>>>>> was given a choice - either to proceed with surgery or leave everything to
>>>>> conservative treatment ( medicines alone) which in her case had negligible
>>>>> chances of success.Her faith in Krishna was strong - she knew everything
>>>>> occurred for a reason. The surgery was a little risky one.She planned to
>>>>> proceed with the conservative treatment, believing in Krishna.
>>>>>
>>>>> The senior Doctor who suggested her the treatment was also a
>>>>> devotee,his confidence was admirable.Three months passed,the pain
>>>>> subsided.Her walking slowly came to the original shape - her foot drop
>>>>> resolved completely! All these days,she and her loved ones offered prayers
>>>>> along with treatment.Now she is not just walking,she dances,she runs,she
>>>>> workouts and what else? The girl is now an MBBS,MD graduate from a reputed
>>>>> Govt.Medical College.People may call this as a Medical Miracle but 
>>>>> honestly
>>>>> speaking it was Krishna who acted through the medicine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ever since then,she tells this story wherever she go. She wants others
>>>>> to know that Krishna is always there taking care of us.
>>>>>
>>>>> And that girl is me.Radhe Radhe.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Q2           When did aluminum become cheap?*
>>>>>
>>>>> A2           Sean Kernan, Writer at seanjkernan.substack.com6h
>>>>>
>>>>> 1886–and it’s kind of a fascinating story.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aluminum was once more expensive than gold.
>>>>>
>>>>> But then a chemistry professor told a classroom that if someone could
>>>>> figure out how to make it cheap, they’d be rich in a heartbeat. One
>>>>> student, Charles Hall, learned how to smelt aluminum from bauxite. He did
>>>>> it using his moms pots and pans and everyday items. He was persistent and
>>>>> brilliant.
>>>>>
>>>>> And sure enough, he came up with a crazy-cheap way of smelting
>>>>> aluminum and the world was changed forever. His discovery led to the first
>>>>> widespread use of a metal since iron was discovered. So it’s no small 
>>>>> feat.
>>>>> And yes, he made a ton of money from this process.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Q3           What are some famous English jokes?*
>>>>>
>>>>> A3           Jeff Kay,Modern Renaissance Man / Top Writer
>>>>> 2015/16/17/18 7y
>>>>>
>>>>> Irish archaeologists were excavating a certain location and found what
>>>>> appeared to be ancient long copper wires. After a bit of discussion, it 
>>>>> was
>>>>> announced that the ancient Irish had created the first telephone
>>>>> communication network.
>>>>>
>>>>> Scottish archaeologists, not to be outdone by the Irish, found what
>>>>> appeared to be ancient long glass strands on one of their excavations.
>>>>> After some discussion, it was announced they the ancient Scots must have
>>>>> created the first fiber optic network.
>>>>>
>>>>> English archaeologists, in a fit of national pride, began digs all
>>>>> over England, but after years of searching, found nothing like the Irish 
>>>>> or
>>>>> Scottish had.
>>>>>
>>>>> After some discussion, it was announced that the ancient English had
>>>>> most certainly created the first wireless network.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Q4           When Shri Krishna returned after the war of Mahabharata,
>>>>> Rukmani, was filled with anger and questioned him.Why?*
>>>>>
>>>>> A4           Chauhan Babu Nath,18h
>>>>>
>>>>> Everything else was fine in the war. But why did you support the
>>>>> killing of pious people like “Dronacharya” and “Bhishma Pitamah”??
>>>>>
>>>>>  “Shri Krishna” replied. It is true that both of them followed
>>>>> religion throughout their lives. But one "sin" committed by him destroyed
>>>>> all his "virtues".
>>>>>
>>>>> What sins were those??
>>>>>
>>>>> When "Draupadi" was being dissected in the crowd. Then both of them
>>>>> were also present there. Being an elder, he could have stopped Dushasan.
>>>>> But he did not do this. Due to this one sin of his, all his other 
>>>>> religious
>>>>> activities fell short.
>>>>>
>>>>> And "Karna" was famous for his charity. No one left his door empty
>>>>> handed. Why did you help in his death? What was his mistake??
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey darling! You are telling the truth. He was famous for his
>>>>> generosity and never said no to anyone. But when Abhimanyu was lying on 
>>>>> the
>>>>> ground injured in the battlefield after defeating all the warriors.
>>>>>
>>>>> So he asked Karna for water. There was a pit of water near where Karna
>>>>> was standing. But Karna did not give water to the dying Abhimanyu.
>>>>> Therefore, the "virtue" he had earned through charity throughout his life
>>>>> was destroyed. Later, the wheel of his chariot got stuck in the same pit
>>>>> and he was killed.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hey Rukmani! often happens. When something wrong is happening around
>>>>> humans and they do nothing. They think that they are not guilty of this
>>>>> “sin”.
>>>>>
>>>>> If they are not in a position to help then they can tell the truth
>>>>> that they cannot do anything. He is in no position to help.
>>>>>
>>>>> But they don't even do that. By not doing so, they also become equally
>>>>> guilty of that "sin". The more one commits a “sin”.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Q5           What are some of the best "A priest, a pastor and a
>>>>> rabbi…" jokes?*
>>>>>
>>>>> A5           Marc Clamage, Alter kakker extraordinaire!1y
>>>>>
>>>>> A priest, a pastor, and a rabbi are sitting around talking and it
>>>>> turns out they all have the same problem: squirrels in the attic. The
>>>>> priest says, “When we realized what the problem was we hired an
>>>>> exterminator who sealed off the church and fumigated. Nevertheless, two
>>>>> weeks later the squirrels were back.”
>>>>>
>>>>> The pastor says, “We had this issue too. We got humane traps, caught
>>>>> the squirrels, and released them 20 miles away. Nevertheless, two weeks
>>>>> later the squirrels were back.”
>>>>>
>>>>> “We had the same problem,” says the rabbi. “When we realized what was
>>>>> going on, we had a meeting of the trustees, made the squirrels full 
>>>>> members
>>>>> of the congregation, and now we only see them on Rosh Hashonah and Yom
>>>>> Kippur.”
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