Good question; if Manu says the age of the wedding; Gopala would say
marriage age is raised; and how it is applicable now; and may be he means
that Manu is no more worth; and to be by passed or obliterated;  because
Govt law says so; and even when marriages are done in India and even in
west at age 12 for woman or baby delivered, , and even known to
Gopalaakrishnan, yet it is violation of law and so the wedding is chellathu
chellathu (satyaraj or sarathkumar style) ?; same phenomena sir; even
devasa mantra, and puja mantras are uttered by vadhyars in many places,
where the kaartha sits quiet without repeating any, and the puja is
completed; does it mean puja is cancelled?; today many parents are
interested in performing weddings in an orthodox way; and boys , modern,
foreign returned, sit calmly and tie the thali, while vadhyars are chanting
the mangalyam....; so is that not correct vadhyar only?; in few weddings
where I was there, Radhakrishnan Mylapore famous, was telling ( this is one
style started in the last decade where vadhyars would give a sermon before
tali tying); he said "do not shake hand till panigrahanam was over since ,
the shake-on-hand, will cut off the bondage with his would be; why?; or  as
so many shook hands , thjose couple are only living together?; so empty
heads may write so many confusions out of the anger and frustrations as
Gopala; let it die with them as they cannot be modified. KR  IRS  6524  NB
Do not waste time by writing senselesss out of anger a few here, which will
expose only their errors.

On Sun, 5 May 2024 at 23:47, 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty <
[email protected]> wrote:

> What ever Mr Gopalakrishnan adds in cultural QA from Quora  are
> *fake news and folklore for Mr Rajaram.  But whatever he writes with out
> reference are very correct. *
>
>
> *Best example is Mangalyam thanthuthanena mamajeevana hethuna....*
>
> *According to him priest chants and bridge groom simply  ties the  thali. *
>
> *If priest pronounces  and bridegroom does not recite how " mamajeevana"
> will come in the introduced mantra not in Vedas. How Mr Rajaram upholds it?*
>
>
> *Mr Rajaram is like the "monkey in Boss is always right". *
>
>
> *Gopalakrishnan*
>
> On Monday, 6 May, 2024 at 08:42:40 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> The old haggard does not know that he has a foot in his mouth? Muttale
> The VR speaks only about dasaratha calling for yagna to beget children and
> as you spun for drought etc  Don't remove your foot and cry over and be
> ashamed KR
>
> On Sun, 5 May 2024 at 22:05, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Dear folks
>
> Caught with his foot in his mouth yet again for the umpteenth time, the
> super-faker cannot distinguish between Dasharatha Chakravarthy the emperor,
> and the ruler of little Anga desam.
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 10:33 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Oldman kicks himself? How can he say as a rev learned that dasaratha?
> Dasaratha connection ids different; and Anga  desam is different. Accept
> old man you are down with your memory KR
>
> On Sun, 5 May 2024 at 21:19, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> Dear folks
>
> One can always depend on a notorious bluffologist and super-faker for
> calling the kettle black, when his own pot badly needs keeling.
>
> The torrent of nonsense boldly headed "*KR  -- ONE MORE FAKE FOLKLORE*"
> is no exception.
>
> The super-faker juggles what he recalls about the conflicting accounts in
> the mahaa-bhaaratham and about the raamaayanam and -- despite splitting
> fine hairs and despite copy-pasting extensively, irrelevant rubbish from
> other sources -- fails dismally to disprove the core truth which I was
> illustrating, i.e.* faith, and the proper performance of appropriat vedic
> rituals, can overcome and alter natural phenomena like drought.*
>
> The story of avowed strict brahmachaari rishya-shringa -- kidnapped under
> false pretences by employing courtesans steeped in immorality -- bringing
> rain to a parched land, whether called Anga territory ruled by Romapa or an
> empire ruled by Dasaratha, is a mere legend related to
> Dasarstha's charioteer by Sanat Kumara.
>
> The common link is not disputed:-
>
> "*Sage Rishyasringa is also a son-in-law to King Dasharatha. Princess
> Shanta, in a distant relationship is a daughter to King Dasharatha in
> relation and the adopted daughter of Romapaada**, the King of Anga. Thus,
> Sumantra's saying son-in-law also means Dasharatha's son-in-law, besides
> Romapada’s.*"
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2024 at 10:16 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> CULTURAL QA 05202405
>
> Q1           What are the stories of Lord Krishna that give you goosebumps?
>
> KR          Thank God Trivandrum doctor was not asked to explain this
> phenomenon!!!   Disk prolapse in 3 months cured By Krishna -may not be a
> FAKE NEWS?  Faith MAY even move the mountain. However, if it’s a real
> prolapse, had that Doctor sent messages all over, Chandrasekar my friend
> could have been cured. Is there media news?  Can Goose bump? See below NB.
> ***
>
>
>
> Q2           When did aluminium become cheap?
>
> KR           Yes correct; Before this breakthrough, aluminium was
> considered a luxury item, and it was even used to cap the Washington
> Monument in the United States as a symbol of wealth and prestige.
> However, once the Hall-Héroult process was introduced, aluminium became
> much more abundant and its price dropped significantly, making it widely
> available for various industrial and consumer applications.
>
>
>
> Q4           When Shri Krishna returned after the war of Mahabharata,
> Rukmani, was filled with anger and questioned him. Why?
>
> KR            ONE MORE FAKE FOLKLORE
>
> ***NB    1     Can faith move mountains? If we see commercial on liners
> advertising as honest, will give only the positive descriptions; and then
> as if waiting, their own 3 or 4 people will eulogise that product and there
> will be one harsh comment too. Thereafter it is rare any other purchasers
> added any comments at all. But the consumers are attracted and rush to buy
> that product. Fake products and Fake advt comments.  And the sales galore
> and mute purchasers. So too, once something is written, immediately if 2
> comments as advt passed, it becomes genuine?
>
> 2        According to the Mahabharata, Vibhandaka, a renowned sage and a
> son of Kashyapa, travels in Mahahrada, when he sees Urvashi, the most
> beautiful apsara (nymph). Aroused, he emits his seed, which fell into the
> river. A doe, who is a cursed apsara, swallows it and becomes pregnant due
> to the sage's miraculous powers. After she gives birth to a boy, she is
> liberated from the curse and returns to heaven. The boy is born with horns
> and because of which, he is named Rishyasringa. Vibhandaka decides to raise
> him isolated from society. Rishyasringa grows up in his father's ashram in
> the forest, unaware of existence of any female. He practices brahmacharya
> and acquires magical and miraculous powers due to his chastity.
>
> 3       Meanwhile, Romapada—the King of Anga—offends a Brahmin, due to
> which no other Brahmin agrees to perform yajna (fire-sacrifice). This
> upsets Indra, the king of the gods, and he stops raining on Anga. As a
> result, the kingdom suffers from drought and famine. Romapada is told
> that the only way to bring rainfall is by bringing a man with perfect
> chastity into the kingdom. Romapada learns of Rishyasringa and despite his
> fear of the power and anger of Vibhandaka, he sends some courtesans to 
> Rishyasringa
> to bring him into his kingdom. During Vibhandaka's absence, the women
> come to his ashram and meet Rishyasringa. They tell him that they were
> hermits. Rishyasringa becomes astonished by seeing their appearance and
> invites them to perform tapas (penance) with him. Before Vibhandaka
> arrives, the women leave the place. Rishyasringa becomes love-sick and
> ignores his daily duties. The next day, the courtesans return and take
> Rishyasringa to Anga. As a result, the kingdom receives bountiful rains and
> Rishyasringa marries Shanta. Much of the story is taken up by accounts of
> the feelings of the young man as he becomes aware of women for the first
> time. {KR so it is not Dasarathan and that day Ayodhya in famine}
>
> 4    The story can be found in both the Ramayana and the Mahabharata.
> According to the Ramayana, Rishyasringa was the chief priest when the King
> Dasharatha performed a yajna to beget progeny, and Rama, Bharata, and the
> twins Lakshmana and Shatrughna were born.
>
>       CORRECT VERSION OF RAMAYANA AND NOT AS STATED BY SOME FAKE MEMBER:
>
> Valmiki Ramayana - Bala Kanda in Prose Sarga 9
>
> Sumantra, the minister of King Dasharatha, details the importance of Sage
> Rishyasringa and beseeches the king to invite that sage to preside over the
> contemplated Vedic ritual, for that Sage's entry into any kingdom is
> auspicious for that land and people.Sumantra, the charioteer and one of the
> misters of King Dasharatha, having heard all about the king's desire to
> perform a Vedic ritual, said this in confidence to king, "Oh, king, I will
> tell an early legend, an early legendary narration that I listened... "Oh,
> king, I have earlier heard of this present advice given to you by Vedic
> scholars, as godly Sage Sanatkumara has once narrated an account about the
> arrival of your sons in the presence of other sages, and sage Sanat Kumara
> said... He said that "Sage Kashyapa has a son known as Vibhaandaka, and his
> son will be the renowned Sage Rishyasringa, and that Sage Rishyasringa will
> grow up in forests, and will always be dwelling in forest...
>
>     Here the word used by Sumantra is tava putra aagamam , it renders as
> 'the arrival of your sons', meaning that sons of King Dasharatha arrive
> from Heavens, but not through an ordinary parturition. Even earlier in time
> to that of Dasharatha, Sage Sanatkumara predicted the 'arrival' of Vishnu
> as Rama. The birth-event associated with Rishyasringa’s name is that he is
> born with a horn on the crown of his head. Thus he is named as
> Rishyasringa, i.e., em> R^iSi the Sage; shR^i~Nga horn; a Sage with a horn
> on his forehead at his birth time. This being the mythological import, he
> is an acme among sages, as shR^i~Nga also means a peak."Not knowing others,
> that Brahman the best, namely Rishyasringa, will always be abiding his
> father and he will follow celibacy of two kinds Brahmanical vows namely
> vratitva , praajaapatya ...Or  Not knowing others that Brahman the best,
> will always be abiding his father, lest his renowned celibacy always
> praised by the Brahmans, will be hindered.
>
>     The word dvaividhyam also means two kinds of celibacy, vratitva and
> prajaapatyam. One, as a bachelor and the other after marriage, voluntarily
> distancing away from his wife on certain forbidden days like full moon and
> new moon days, during daytime, eclipses, and other astronomical occurrences
> and some more. This kind of self-imposed celibacy is one way of observing
> sustained family planning methods, instead of resorting to medicaments.
> Here, this word is more nearer to mean 'hindrance', than to mean the 'two
> way celibacy' as deciphered by some commentators.    "In the world he
> becomes famous for his celibacy, oh king, and he will always be praised by
> Brahmans, and thus time will pass on with that kind of his conduct...
> Sage Rishyasringa loses no time with his servitor-ship to the Sacrificial
> Fire and also to his celebrated father, and during this period alone there
> will be a famed and very strong king Romapaada, a valiant in Anga
> country... But by a violation of righteousness of that king there will be
> a shocking and devastating famine in that country... While the famine is
> besetting that king Roamapada will be afflicted with grim, and on summoning
> Brahmans and learned scholars he will address them..." ‘All of you are
> well versed in rituals and knowers of the world history... order me how to
> how the purification from sin will be..." ‘Thus said by king those
> scholarly Brahmans and Vedic scholars will say to the king, 'oh, king, son
> of Sage Vibhaandaka, namely Rishyasringa, is to be fetched by all methods...
>
>       "Oh! King, having brought Sage Rishyasringa and honouring him well
> with good care, procedurally give him your daughter Shanta in marriage to
> that Vedic Brahman and the son of Sage Vibhaandaka... On listening them the
> king becomes thoughtful about the idea by which it is possible to bring
> that self-controlled sage to his place...Then that intellectual king
> decides along with ministers, to dispatch clergymen and ministers,
> honouring them well, and then sends them..."They on hearing king's words
> are awestruck and lowering their faces they will say, 'we can not go there
> as we are afraid of sage Vibhandaka, father of Rishyasringa...' After
> thinking over they will say as a second thought, and having found a
> solution with a plan to bring that sage, 'we will fetch that Brahman and
> also by that no stigma will occur...'
>
>       "Thus by the king of Anga kingdom and by his courtesans the son of
> sage Rishyasringa will be brought and the presiding deity for rains will
> showers rains, and Shanta will also be given in marriage to that sage...’
> "Sage Rishyasringa, son-in-law of Romapaada, King of Anga ad as well as to
> you, if invited to our kingdom he will bless you to beget sons, oh! King...
> so said Sage Sanatkumaara to other sages and all this is retold by me."
> Thus the charioteer and the Minister Sumantra completed his narration in
> confidence to King Dasharatha.
>
> Comment: Sage Rishyasringa is also a son-in-law to King Dasharatha.
> Princess Shanta, in a distant relationship is a daughter to King
> Dasharatha in relation and the adopted daughter of Romapaada, the King of
> Anga. Thus, Sumantra's saying son-in-law also means Dasharatha's
> son-in-law, besides Romapada’s.
>
> 5        The Naḷinikā Jātaka (Jā 526) introduces a past life of the
> Buddha, a sage, living alone in the Himālayas. There is semen in the urine
> he passes, a doe who eats the grass in that place gets pregnant from it. A
> human boy named Isisiṅga (Pali) is later born to the deer and he grows up
> in complete seclusion from mankind, and most importantly, from womankind.
> He even doesn't know the difference in the body and appearance of the
> two.The boy's ascetic power becomes so great that it disturbs the god
> Sakka, the lord of heaven, who causes a drought to occur in the country and
> blames it on the boy. He then convinces the King to send his daughter to
> seduce him and to break the austerity of the young seer and to reduce his
> ascetic power. The King and his daughter accept Sakka's reasoning and in
> good faith – and for the benefit of the country – agree to be part of the
> plot The girl dresses up as an ascetic and while the father is away
> gathering roots and fruits in the forest, she manages to seduce the boy,
> who has never seen a woman before. Through their revelling, the boy does
> indeed lose his powers, after which the girl departs. When his father
> returns, the infatuated boy informs him of the girl, only to be instructed
> and rebuked by his father. He then repents for his actions.
>
> 6     Jātaka 523, the Alambusā Jātaka, also recounts a similar story of 
> Isisinga,
> in one other previous life of Bodhisattva. Here, Sakka chooses a heavenly
> nymph to seduce the ascetic. The outcome is the same: the sage is seduced,
> repents and Sakka is thwarted. In response, he grants a boon to the
> seductress.
>
> 7     The story also appears in the Mahāvastu (Jones' translation pp.
> 139–147), but Ekaśr̥ṅga, as he is known here, is the Bodhisattva, and
> Nalinī is a past life of Yaśodharā. A major variation in this version of
> the story is Ekaśr̥ṅga's ignorance of his marriage to the girl. He
> succumbs to worldly responsibilities, eventually becoming king and
> fathering 32 children before retiring again to the forest and regaining his
> former powers.
>
> 8    According to the Tuṅgabhadrāmahātmya which is a division of a
> Mahapuranas,[8] Rishyasringa is regarded to have been born from a place
> near Sringeri in Karnataka. There is an ancient big temple nearby which is
> believed to be the place where he lived before moving to Ayodhya.[9]
> Sringeri is also known as ShringaGiri (Sanskrit: the hills where
> RishyaShringaresided). The Shiva linga with which the sage merged, can be
> seen today at the temple in Kigga.
>
> 9    There is a temple of rishyashringa named 'Chehni fort' situated in
> Banjar tehsil of Kullu District Himachal Pradesh. In Banjar valley,
> Rishyasringa is called "Shringa Rishi" by the locals. An idol of Shringa
> Rishi with the goddess Shanta is present in the temple. This place is about
> 50  km from Kullu. Rishyasringa is the presiding deity of this secluded
> valley named Banjar.
>
> KR        Here was no faith moving the mountain; confused minds believe
> and it is harmless so we do believe.        K RAJARAM   IRS   5524
>
> On Sat, 4 May 2024 at 23:41, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> *CULTURAL QA 05-2024-05*
>
> *All the BELOW  QA are from  Quora  digest to me   on  05-05-2024.*
>
> * Quora answers need not be 100% correct answers *
>
> *.Compiled **and posted by R. Gopala krishnan,  on 05-05-2024*
>
> *Q1           What are the stories of Lord Krishna that give you
> goosebumps?*
>
> A1           Dr Arsha M Dev, MBBS MD in Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor
> of Surgery Degrees, Doctor of Medicine (Graduated 2023)7mo
>
> There was a girl who loved Lord Krishna very much from her very young
> age.She had to face a lot of hardships to reach her dream of becoming a
> Doctor.Yet she believed in Krishna so much.When her graduation was just a
> few months away,a terrible back ache occurred.The pain was not subsiding
> and it progressed to foot drop ( inability to use left foot.This made her
> walking difficult.The MRI scan revealed that she was having a severe disc
> prolapse affecting her nerves to the foot which may make her crippled for
> life.The emergency measure was a surgery.The surgery could save her from
> complete paralysis of the left leg,but the already occurred neurological
> damage to the foot was not correctable.
>
> The girl was shattered.There was no one to guide her.She herself was a
> Doctor,so she very well knew the consequences if surgery was not done.She
> was given a choice - either to proceed with surgery or leave everything to
> conservative treatment ( medicines alone) which in her case had negligible
> chances of success.Her faith in Krishna was strong - she knew everything
> occurred for a reason. The surgery was a little risky one.She planned to
> proceed with the conservative treatment, believing in Krishna.
>
> The senior Doctor who suggested her the treatment was also a devotee,his
> confidence was admirable.Three months passed,the pain subsided.Her walking
> slowly came to the original shape - her foot drop resolved completely! All
> these days,she and her loved ones offered prayers along with treatment.Now
> she is not just walking,she dances,she runs,she workouts and what else? The
> girl is now an MBBS,MD graduate from a reputed Govt.Medical College.People
> may call this as a Medical Miracle but honestly speaking it was Krishna who
> acted through the medicine.
>
> Ever since then,she tells this story wherever she go. She wants others to
> know that Krishna is always there taking care of us.
>
> And that girl is me.Radhe Radhe.
>
> *Q2           When did aluminum become cheap?*
>
> A2           Sean Kernan, Writer at seanjkernan.substack.com6h
>
> 1886–and it’s kind of a fascinating story.
>
> Aluminum was once more expensive than gold.
>
> But then a chemistry professor told a classroom that if someone could
> figure out how to make it cheap, they’d be rich in a heartbeat. One
> student, Charles Hall, learned how to smelt aluminum from bauxite. He did
> it using his moms pots and pans and everyday items. He was persistent and
> brilliant.
>
> And sure enough, he came up with a crazy-cheap way of smelting aluminum
> and the world was changed forever. His discovery led to the first
> widespread use of a metal since iron was discovered. So it’s no small feat.
> And yes, he made a ton of money from this process.
>
> *Q3           What are some famous English jokes?*
>
> A3           Jeff Kay,Modern Renaissance Man / Top Writer 2015/16/17/18 7y
>
> Irish archaeologists were excavating a certain location and found what
> appeared to be ancient long copper wires. After a bit of discussion, it was
> announced that the ancient Irish had created the first telephone
> communication network.
>
> Scottish archaeologists, not to be outdone by the Irish, found what
> appeared to be ancient long glass strands on one of their excavations.
> After some discussion, it was announced they the ancient Scots must have
> created the first fiber optic network.
>
> English archaeologists, in a fit of national pride, began digs all over
> England, but after years of searching, found nothing like the Irish or
> Scottish had.
>
> After some discussion, it was announced that the ancient English had most
> certainly created the first wireless network.
>
> *Q4           When Shri Krishna returned after the war of Mahabharata,
> Rukmani, was filled with anger and questioned him.Why?*
>
> A4           Chauhan Babu Nath,18h
>
> Everything else was fine in the war. But why did you support the killing
> of pious people like “Dronacharya” and “Bhishma Pitamah”??
>
>  “Shri Krishna” replied. It is true that both of them followed religion
> throughout their lives. But one "sin" committed by him destroyed all his
> "virtues".
>
> What sins were those??
>
> When "Draupadi" was being dissected in the crowd. Then both of them were
> also present there. Being an elder, he could have stopped Dushasan. But he
> did not do this. Due to this one sin of his, all his other religious
> activities fell short.
>
> And "Karna" was famous for his charity. No one left his door empty handed.
> Why did you help in his death? What was his mistake??
>
> Hey darling! You are telling the truth. He was famous for his generosity
> and never said no to anyone. But when Abhimanyu was lying on the ground
> injured in the battlefield after defeating all the warriors.
>
> So he asked Karna for water. There was a pit of water near where Karna was
> standing. But Karna did not give water to the dying Abhimanyu. Therefore,
> the "virtue" he had earned through charity throughout his life was
> destroyed. Later, the wheel of his chariot got stuck in the same pit and he
> was killed.
>
>  Hey Rukmani! often happens. When something wrong is happening around
> humans and they do nothing. They think that they are not guilty of this
> “sin”.
>
> If they are not in a position to help then they can tell the truth that
> they cannot do anything. He is in no position to help.
>
> But they don't even do that. By not doing so, they also become equally
> guilty of that "sin". The more one commits a “sin”.
>
> *Q5           What are some of the best "A priest, a pastor and a rabbi…"
> jokes?*
>
> A5           Marc Clamage, Alter kakker extraordinaire!1y
>
> A priest, a pastor, and a rabbi are sitting around talking and it turns
> out they all have the same problem: squirrels in the attic. The priest
> says, “When we realized what the problem was we hired an exterminator who
> sealed off the church and fumigated. Nevertheless, two weeks later the
> squirrels were back.”
>
> The pastor says, “We had this issue too. We got humane traps, caught the
> squirrels, and released them 20 miles away. Nevertheless, two weeks later
> the squirrels were back.”
>
> “We had the same problem,” says the rabbi. “When we realized what was
> going on, we had a meeting of the trustees, made the squirrels full members
> of the congregation, and now we only see them on Rosh Hashonah and Yom
> Kippur.”
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