No where they do the hiring sradham sincekartha in absentia is not approved
as no poa allowed. Madya kailash started with some vadhyarsto do that. In
the mean time. Power struggle started in madya kailash and today temple is
inattentive. But a sangalpam with prayer and some mantra and feeding the
Brahman is done in Raghavendra temple T. Nagar and evening give the
prasadams Raja veda Pataskala does it but when thither falls in vocation of
sanskrit Pataskala the date will go to same thither in next period Except
that they create a corpus and do it regularly. Sends sms . Maha perinatal
says one should come to India for sradham and not Potomac Arya samar has
its way.. Thank u. K. Rajaram IRS
On Sat, May 25, 2024, 2:11 PM 'Bala N. Aiyer' via KeralaIyers <
keralaiy...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> I support the ideas of all these organization. But, some of them are often
> mismanaged due to the personal egoistic behavior of some of the people at
> the head.
>
> During one of the visits to Chennai, long time back, I heard about the
> services rendered by Madhya Kailash.
> Just to support the organization I paid a lumpsum to perform Hiranya
> Srardham for my parents - for life time,
> even though, we have a local temple to get this performed every year here
> in USA. This was just to show my support for their efforts.
> They were mailing me the prasadam in a mail twice a year.
>
> After three years, I stopped getting any correspondence and they did not
> reply to any of my emails.
> During my next visit, I went personally to their office. Someone in the
> office gave me a rough reply with a sense of arrogance,
> and a sense of superiority, that they can do it unless I correspond with
> them every year.
> Then they said that I need to send money every year if they want.
> I mailed one payment after that, for which there was no response.
> I stopped writing to them after that.
>
> Bala N. Aiyer
>
>
> On Saturday, May 25, 2024 at 12:12:14 PM CDT, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, laxmi is a wonderful mother tongue you have learnt from your family.
> Perhaps Keep it up as I dont know that tongue of your tribe, have a nice
> night and wake up again to speak FYI @ of you write vadakalai thenkalai etc
> who told you that ? Sarama is well learned of a language of a brahmin
> tribe pouring out with yellow colours!!Bye
>
> On Sat, 25 May 2024 at 11:50, Laxminarayan Sarma <
> laxminarayan.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> *You IRS - Incestuous Randi Service - you MOTHERFUCKER SoB, I'm not a
> sister fucking THENGALAI PUNDE like you to pretend i know everything. But
> Rajaran, you son of an INCESTUOUS WHORE, i have the balls to be frank and
> open.*
>
> *Bastard, tell me in WHICH STINKING WHORR-HOLE have you concealed
> yourself. I will drag you out of there and shove a 6 ft long bamboo up your
> rotten, leprous syphllis infected rotten anus. *
>
>
>
> On Sat, 25 May, 2024, 9:33 pm Rajaram Krishnamurthy, <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Saw the faith and the best knowledge laxmi possessed Great Gopala says you
> speak only vedic mantras Thank u Sarama------KR IRS 25524
>
> On Sat, 25 May 2024 at 10:14, Laxminarayan Sarma <
> laxminarayan.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> *Rajaram, ou mother fucking shit slurping bastsrd born out of incest
> between your whore of a mother and her brother, you may disagree but you
> have no right to question people's faith and belief *
>
> *Fucking eunuch whore, stop your anti brahmin anti Sanatan rant. You
> BASTARD, wait till I return. I will, by God, drag you into the street and
> have a dog sodomise you *
>
> *Stop provoking. *
>
> On Sat, 25 May, 2024, 7:20 pm Rajaram Krishnamurthy, <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 1 I have been reading all quite interestingly. There is a story. The
> daughter in law turned away the beggar. This was being watched by the
> mother in law. She was wild. How can she say that? She scolded her and
> called back the beggar who returned so happily. Then M in Law said "No alms
> Go away".
> 2 So all the time since long I was accusing Vadhyars. but the people who
> were making fun of me are now charging the same !
> 3 We have to follow a principle , if we follow, in all equity, as
> advocated there. Manu smrithi and other sutras are very clear about it. It
> had given a big list of UNQUALIFIED VADHYARS. Where one finds such, dont
> beg them. You learn it because you are a brahmin and feel proud by birth.
> And do sradham. Or Refrain from totally. Suppose you are posted at a place
> where tirunelveli collector may not even be available, then ? That is why
> Hiranya sradham. No big mantras. Just sit and arrange food products in
> dhakshinai. Give to some brahmin. It is over. Seetha did it only in that
> late sunset evening. That is why I wrote long back. Vedam is universal.
> Americans do not do any sradham. Are they sinners? The body is burnt or
> buried. Soul does not expect anything according to our Vedas. Then what is
> that or where is that stula shareeram? Who is expecting water, food etc? It
> is our love; discipline and way of life. When adharma dances ahead, why do
> you bend? Krishna does not say so. 16 samskaras expanded to 40. Who did
> it? We are not recalcitrants. But qualified Brahmins not by birth , not by
> upanayan, but by character of tolerance; and that tolerance when tested,
> tension breaks; has to break. It is not the duty of a student alone but the
> duty of a teacher also that he is 100 times better than the student. It is
> Biksha vandanam; Guru dakshina; which we offer; Dharmam we do; dhanam=they
> do ask, request. That is why today no brahmin or Mutt heads are requesting.
> Because we are offering voluntarily; the more guilty we are, the more
> Bhakthi. B G never spoke of sradham; Rig vedam does not say shraddha vidhi
> which is written as translated by PRR. And Gaya srardham also is not the be
> all or end all. Do not bend. They will request it. Vandanam ,
> abhivandanam are all Grihastan dharma. I am not writing atheism, but Vedic
> self inculcation of a true Brahmin. On the contrary, if you are OK with the
> cropped vadhyar and his bla bla, let it be as what you believe is the truth
> according to Vedam. Be done with it. As sannyasins parents, Only daughters'
> parents will get salvations is certain; so too all. Kumbakonam Rajaveda
> patasala, Madhya Kailash adyar and so many places and few Samajams do the
> srdham in a different way. Respecting the ancestors is the principle of
> the sradham. And Another paradox I found today is, mentioning the arya
> samaj of Dayananda saraswati whose name is anathema to their close friend!.
> Dayananda Saraswati is perhaps one among the very few, who wrote the hidden
> meanings of Rig Vedam which he could not complete as Arabindo also did
> partially. {DAV school is an example] K Rajaram IRS 25524
>
> NUMEROUS ORGANISATIONS WORKING ALL OVER THE WORLD UNDER ARYA SAMAJ
>
> 1. There are approximately 10000 Arya Samaj Temples in the whole world.
> 2. Approximately 2500 Schools, Colleges and Universities are being
> operated by Arya Samaj including DAVs.
> 3. Operation of approximately 400 Gurukuls running on the residential
> education system.
> 4. Many orphanages are in operation for bringing up more than 20000
> orphans in different places.
> 5. Approximately 1500 hospitals and dispensaries are being run by Arya
> Samaj to serve the mankind
> 6. , organizing thousands of inter-caste marriages every year with
> simplicity.
> 7. Operation of thousands of gymnasiums (Vyayam shalas) for physical
> development of youngsters by Arya Veer Dal.
> 8. Thousands of residential camps are being organised every year for
> moral education and physical development.
> 9. Operation of Schools in tribal areas for the education of lakhs of
> tribal.
> 10. Operation of permanent residential centers in cities for higher
> education of youngsters of poor and backward families.
> 11. Operation of centers for training women to run small scale
> businesses.
> 12. Operation of many Mahila Ashram, Vanaprastha Ashram & Sanyas
> Ashram.
> 13. Operation of many Gaushalas in the whole country.
>
> PRESENCE OF ARYA SAMAJ IN THE WORLD
>
> At present Arya Samaj is operating in more than 32 countries of the world
>
> America Canada Suriname Trinidad
>
> Mauritius England Australia Nepal
>
> New Zealand Thailand Fiji Kenya
>
> South Africa Uganda East Africa Myanmar
>
> Pakistan Germany Singapore West
> Indies
>
> Holland Tanzania Zanzibar
> Bangladesh
>
> Ghana Guyana Czech Republic Malaysia
>
> Armenia
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 25 May 2024 at 01:45, 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty <
> thatha_patty@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Mr Sharma,
>
> The same with Kerala also. In 75% of cases except the funeral all other
> Karmas are conducted at Palghat, Trichur , Cochin or Trivandrum. In these
> places for all Antyakarams, the Kerala Brahmana Samajam has made
> arrangements for stay, place for karma, sasthrikals and Brahmins. Also for
> sradha.
>
> Arya samajam is not famous, if available .
> Gopalakrishnan
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 25 May, 2024 at 09:53:24 am IST, Laxminarayan Sarma <
> laxminarayan.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Dear GK Sir
>
> May be your take on Chennai Vadhyars is right. So that being the case,
> it's sensible to get all tge rites performed by the Arya Samaj.
>
>
>
> On Sat, 25 May, 2024, 7:52 am 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123, <
> iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Yes sir. We agree to it in all places.
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Friday, 24 May, 2024 at 07:08:18 pm IST, Rama <kaviran...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Gopala ji.
> Your added input is appreciable.
> Yes we do find it difficult to find Brahmanas esp for shrardam rituals.
> We do our rituals at the venue prescribed by our Vadhyar. They have good
> net working, make all arrangements and charge as a package.
> It works out well
>
>
> On Fri, 24 May, 2024, 18:38 gopala krishnan, <gopa4...@yahoo.in> wrote:
>
> Sir,
>
> One of the best postings I read. Though in Tamil, because of the interest
> in the subject matter I read with little strain.
>
> There is no category like Srardha brahmins. As I read a learnt Vedic
> person must be a Bhoktha.
> *Before decades* the sasthrikal himself used to sit as Viswam deva in
> Central Kerala area. The Brahmana samooham members themselves appeared as
> Bhokthas.
>
> *Now* every where sasthrikal arranges bhokthas. He has a list of persons.
> Mostly poor Brahmins.
> For death related functions the bhokthas are a set of Brahmins, their
> identity is known to sasthrikal only. Whether handicapped, having wounds or
> any other deficiencies, the kartha has to adjust. Not much inquiries or
> talks.
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Friday, 24 May, 2024 at 12:33:18 pm IST, Rama <kaviran...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> அது ஒரு அழகிய அக்ரஹாரம். சுமார் நூறு குடும்பங்கள் வசிக்கின்றனர். கிழக்கில்
> சிவன் கோவில். மேற்கில் பெருமாள் கோவில். வாய்க்காலில் எப்போதும் ஜலம் ஓடிக்
> கொண்டிருக் கும். வயல், விவசாயம்,தென்னை,
> மாமரங்கள் என ஊரே குளு குளு என இருக்கும். பத்து மைலில் திருநெல்வேலி டவுன்.
> நாள், கிழமை, சுவாமி புறப்பாடு, திருநாள். எதற்கும் குறைவில்லை. பிரச்சினை
> இல்லாத
> பிராமண சமாஜம். அதோ மேற்கில் ஒரு
> ஆத்தில், சாஸ்திரிகள் பரபரப்பாக இருக்கிறார். வாருங்கள் என்ன என்று
> பார்ப்போம். கதை அங்குதான் தொடங்குகிறது.
>
> சாஸ்திரிகளே, மணிபத்து ஆகிவிட்டது. ஸ்ரார்த்தத்திற்கு ஒரு பிராமணாள்
> வந்துட்டார். மணி மாமா இன்னும் வல்லியே. கர்த்தா பாலு ஐயர் கவலைப்
> படுகிறார். அவர் அம்மா திடீரென கீழே விழுந்து, ஆஸ்பத்திரியில் இருக்காராம்.
> மன்னிச்சுக்குங்கோ வர தோது இல்லை
> அப்படீன்னு சொல்றார். பத்தரை
> மணிக்கு எந்த பிராமணாள் கிடைப்பா.. இவ்வளவு பெரிய அக்ரஹாரத்தில் ஐந்தாறு பேர்
> தான் பிராமணார்த்தம் சாப்பிட வரா. என்ன பண்றதுனு ஒண்ணும் புரியலை. வாத்யார்
> கைகளைப் பிசைகிறார்.
>
> மாமா, ஒரு நிமிஷம் கர்த்தாவின் மனைவி வாத்யாரைக் கூப்பிட,
> சொல்லுங்கோ மாமி என்கிறார் வாத்யார் சீனு. நாலு அகம் தள்ளி
> புதுசா ஒரு ஃபேமிலி வந்திருக்கா. அவாத்து மாமா டெய்லி இந்த டயத்தில் பஞ்ச
> கச்சம் கட்டிண்டு காரில் ஏறி
> எங்கேயோ போறார். அவர்கிட்ட வேணா கேட்டுப் பார்க்கலாம்.
>
> "அவரே ஊருக்கு புதுசு.. அவர்கிட்ட எப்படி..." வாத்யார் இழுக்க, " சும்மா
> கேட்டுத்தான் பாருங்கோ..காசா.. பணமா" மாமி உசுப்பி விட வாத்யார் அரை மனதுடன்
> கிளம்புகிறார்.
>
> " மாமா.. மாமா" என வாத்யார் அந்தப் புதியவர் ஆத்தில் கூப்பிட, உள்ளிருந்து
> பட்டை விபூதி, பஞ்ச கச்சத்துடன் அவர் வெளியே வருகிறார்.வாங்கோ..உள்ளே வாங்கோ
> என வாத்யாரை அழைத்து
> உட்காரச் சொல்லி சொல்லுங்கோ மாமா..என்ன விஷயம்" எனக் கேட்க
> " நான் இந்த அக்ரஹார வாத்யார். பக்கத்து ஆத்தில் ஸ்ரார்த்தம். திடீரென ஒரு
> பிராமணாள் வர முடியாத சூழ்நிலை. ஸ்ரார்த்தம் தடை படக்
> கூடாது. அதான் நீங்க பிராமணாள வர முடியுமானு கேட்க வந்தேன். நீங்க
> அக்ரஹாரத்துக்கு புதுசு. தப்பா இருந்தா ஷமிக்கணும்."
>
> அவர் சற்று யோசித்து விட்டு சிரித்தவாறே நல்ல வேளை. இன்னிக்கு குருவாரம்
> கார்த்தால விரதம். ஒரு நிமிஷம் என்றவாறு உள்ளே
> செல்கிறார். சற்று நேரத்தில் வெளியே வந்து ஒரு மணிக்கு முடிஞ்சுடுமா எனக்
> கேட்க, வாத்யார் மகிழ்ச்சியுடன்
> பன்னண்டரைக்கு நீங்க கிளம்பிடலாம்
> என்கிறார். " சரி கிளம்புங்கோ.. நான்
> 'மடி' கட்டிண்டு வரேன்" என்கிறார். வாத்யார் மகிழ்ச்சியுடன் சென்று
> விபரங்களைக் கூற எல்லோருக்கும் பரம சந்தோஷம்.
>
> வாத்யார் பரபரவென காரியத்தை ஆரம்பிக்க அந்தப் புதியவர் உள்ளே வர
> வாங்கோ.. வாங்கோ ரொம்ப சந்தோஷம். நல்ல நேரத்தில் உபகாரம் பண்ணினேள். என அவரை
> உபசாரம் பண்ண, பிறகு மளமளவென பிராமணாள் சாப்பிட்டு தக்ஷிணை பெற்று ஸ்ரார்த்தம்
> முடிவடைந்தது. மீண்டும் அவருக்கு நன்றி கூற அவர் சொல்கிறார்.
>
> " பிராமணார்த்தம் சாப்பிடுவது பிராமணனின் கடமை. முடிந்தவரை மாட்டேன் என
> சொல்லக்கூடாது. இது ரொம்ப புண்ணியம். எல்லா பித்ருக்கள் ஆசிகளும் கிடைக்கும்.
> இதை
> மகா பெரியவா பலமுறை சொல்லி இருக்கா..ஆனா ரொம்ப பேர் இதுக்கு வரதில்லை. அது
> ரொம்ப பாவம். உங்க
> ஆத்துக்கு மட்டும் வரணும்னு நினைக்கிறேள். ஆனா நீங்க மட்டும் போக மாட்டேன்னு
> சொன்னா அது நியாயமா? என்கிறார்.
>
> பிறகு இங்கு பிராமண சமாஜம் இருக்கா எனக் கேட்க வாத்யார் இருக்கே நான்தான்
> செக்ரட்டரி" எனக் கூற, அந்தப் புதியவர் தனக்கு தரப் பட்ட தட்சணையுடன் கூட
> ஐநூறு ரூபாய் கொடுத்து "இதை என்
> பங்காக வச்சுக்குங்கோ" என்றவாறு " போய்ட்டு வரேன்" என கைகூப்பி
> விடைபெறுகிறார்.
>
> வாத்யார், " மாமா..ஒரு நிமிஷம்.. நீங்க யாரு..என்ன உத்யோகம் என சொல்லலையே"
> எனக் கேட்க, அவர் சிரித்தவாறே *நான் திருநெல்வேலி மாவட்ட கலெக்டர்" என்கிறார்.*
>
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