Is truth emotional or mathematical and mechanical? Can it be reduced into mathematical exactitude?
YM Sarma Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx KR:1 What is the caricature of the truth? Or mechanical? Or anything else? Emotional? mathematical and reductionable mathematically? Or just mechanical or anything else? 2 Truth is beyond comprehension. Truth is realised. Felt. Assimilated. Removes the grains from the chaffs many facts. It sheds its beacon of light. Ayyar Theory (Krishna Iyer) had the truth; CJI serves the time; time renders many facts, churning, twisting and turning. Truth is beyond time. All needs scaffolding and shelter; truth can stand by itself. Truth is bitter so cannot raise any emotion. As assimilations are involved, it just cannot be mechanical too. All cannot repeat as a standard procedure. The best alone can sift the truth. Is Poornam can be written as Zero? Reductionable mathematically as zero is also a maths. Easwaran is one and easwaran when written as one mathematically may remind the easwaran also. Rta @ Satyam, is not easily measurable; no one had seen the truth the satyam. The Brahmam. Poornam. Or had been seen by many but they were unable to describe exactly. But the truth was spopken in many languages; in many versions; and in many folds; but when read felt uniformly as the SAME, NOT EVEN CLOSE TO SIMILARITY BUT EXACTLY. A cross in christianity is mathematically a plus. 3 A line inside a circle can have multiple meanings depending on the context: Mathematics A circle with a line through it represents the empty set or null set, which is a fundamental concept in set theory. Greek letters A horizontal line that cuts a circle in half is the uppercase and lowercase Greek letter theta, Θ,θ, which is used to measure angles. A vertical line through the middle of a circle is a phi, which is used to represent magnetic flux. Power symbol A line within a circle is the power on-off symbol, which is used on buttons that switch a device between on and off. Prohibitory symbol A circle with a line or slash through it is a prohibitory symbol that means the startup disk contains a Mac operating system that is not compatible with the Mac. Peace symbol A circle with three lines is the peace symbol, which is used to represent peace. Religion: A SINGLE LINE, 3 LINES HORIZONTAL OR VERTICAL LINE OR LINES ARE ALL EXPLAINED THROUGH THE MATH.shulam is never uttered except only as trishul. Man made truths: HUMAN EXAMPLES OF TRUTHS WRITTEN AS TRUTHS BUT MISUNDERSTOOD BY MANY SAMPLES: 4 examples of truths: Universal truths These are truths that apply universally and are based on logic, observations, and experiments: Humans are mortal The Earth revolves around the sun Water is essential for survival One plus one equals two 5 Objective truths These are truths about the world that are not dependent on perspectives or power: The shape of the sun Bacteria cause infections Water is H2O 7 is a prime number 6 General truths These are truths that can be stated in the simple present tense: Koalas sleep around 18 hours per day Lemons contain more sugar than strawberries Europe lies in the northern hemisphere 7 Objective Truth is what exists and can be proved in this physicality. (The sun moves across the sky each day.) 8 Normative Truth is what we, as a group, agree is true. (English speakers agreed to use the word day to name that time when the sky is lit by the sun.) 9 Subjective Truth is how the individual sees or experiences the world. (Today is a good day for me.) 10 Complex Truth recognizes the validity of all those truths and allows you to focus on the one is most useful at any given time. (The sun is up; the day is bright. Today is a good day for MOM, so lets take advantage of that and ask for ice cream for dinner.) 11 A fact is a reality that cannot be logically disputed or rejected. If I say "fire is hot," I don't care how great your reasoning skills are, if you touch fire your skin will burn (and don't give me that "but people can walk on hot coals!" bull. There's a difference between the transfer of heat through conduction and training one's body to deal with the agonizing pain of said conduction). Now when I say this, I am not speaking a truth, I am speaking a fact. If you say "fire is not hot," you are not lying, you are incorrect. Facts are concrete realities that no amount of reasoning will change. When one acknowledges a fact, they are doing just that. Facts are not discovered, facts are not created, facts are simply acknowledged. 12 A truth on the other hand, is almost the opposite. Truths are those things that are not simply acknowledged, but must be discovered, or created. If I say "God exists," and I possess strong reasoning for the affirmative of that statement, then God really does exist, that is a reality. However, if another individual possesses strong reasoning for the negative, and because of this reasoning they believe that God does not exist, then that is also a reality. If we were to debate our ideologies, and my reasoning appeared stronger than theirs, they may choose to adopt my belief that God does exist. If they do, then the existence of God is just as true as the nonexistence of God which they believed a week ago. Truths, as opposed to fact, are much more fluid and malleable than their empirical counterparts. 13 Whether mathematics can explain truth is a topic of ongoing debate: Mathematical realism Some believe that mathematical theories are true descriptions of reality. For example, some point to Maxwell's equations as an example of absolute truth. Mathematical truths as a human projection Others argue that mathematics is a human projection of how we think about the world. For example, the truths of mathematics only make sense within the conceptual structure where they were created. Semantic Theory of Truth A formal mathematical theory of truth developed by Alfred Tarski. It is a philosophical doctrine that has been influential in contemporary analytic philosophy. Axioms and burden of proof To show something is true in mathematics, you need a set of axioms and an agreed burden of proof. For example, if you deny the axioms of mathematics, proving mathematical statements will be impossible. 14 SO, WHERE MATHS IN ITSELF IS THE TRUTH, HOW THE REFLECTION IN THE MIRROR AND ORIGINAL ARE THE TRUTH? Certainly, part of what's special is the incredibly broad applicability of mathematics. Galileo was so impressed by this that he was led to say that natural philosophy (or science, in modern language) is "written in the language of mathematics.'' It makes an indispensable appearance in almost every field of knowledge, from physics to biology to economics. But another part of what's special about mathematics is mathematical proof, the unique way of justifying mathematical claims. Knowledge justified through empirical means is known as a posteriori knowledge, whereas knowledge justified through any other means is known as a priori knowledge. So, the puzzle can be restated yet again in this way: If mathematical knowledge is a priori, rather than a posteriori, then it is not clear what the source of a priori knowledge is. Notice that this is question not about knowledge acquisition. Empirical experience is of course part of how you acquired knowledge of the irrationality of 2–√2, in that you read or heard the words of the proof. But that's just how you happened to acquire knowledge of the mathematical truth, not what justifies it. Indeed, clever philosopher that you are, you might very well have conceived of this proof all by yourself and entirely in your mind, which is to say non-empirically. And yet (it appears) this would still be enough justifying the mathematical truth. K Rajaram IRS 81124 On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 at 09:13, Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu < [email protected]> wrote: > Is truth emotional or mathematical and mechanical?Can it be reduced into > mathematical exactitude? > YM Sarma > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 9:10 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Satya is the Sanskrit <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanskrit> word for >> truth <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth>. The highest truth can mean >> God Himself, or it can mean an ethical virtue, being true and consistent >> with reality in one’s thought, speech and action. vedanta society Southern >> California. >> Satyam (Truth) >> >> By >> Sri Swami Sivananda <https://www.dlshq.org/saints/siva.htm> >> >> Truth is the seat of God. Truth is God. Truth alone triumphs. >> >> Truth is the basic law of life. Truth is the means and the goal ultimate. >> >> Truth is the law of freedom, falsehood the law of slavery and death. >> >> Truth is justice, fair play, adherence to the fundamental laws of ethics. >> Purity and truth are the twin factors that unfold and awaken the divinity >> that lies dormant within you and lead you to perfection. >> >> Truthfulness is the first pillar in the Temple of God-realization. Truth >> is the gateway to the Kingdom of God. >> >> Truth is like a ladder. It leads you to the Kingdom of Immortal Bliss. >> >> THE ALL-INCLUSIVE VIRTUE >> >> Speaking truth is the most important qualification of a Yogin. Truth is >> the queen of virtues. Truth is the supreme virtue. >> >> Truth constitutes the essence of the Vedas. Control over passions >> constitutes the essence of truth. Self-denial or refraining from worldly >> enjoyments forms the essence of self-control. These attributes are always >> present in a virtuous man. >> >> Truth is righteousness. Righteousness is light, and light is bliss. >> Ahimsa <https://www.dlshq.org/teachings/ahimsa.htm>, Brahmacharya >> <https://www.dlshq.org/teachings/brahmacharya.htm>, purity, justice, >> harmony, forgiveness, peace <https://www.dlshq.org/messages/peace.htm> are >> forms of truth. >> >> Impartiality, self-control, modesty, endurance, goodness, renunciation, >> meditation, dignity, fortitude, compassion, and abstention from injury are >> the various forms of truth. >> >> All the above virtues, though seemingly different, have but one and the >> same form, namely, truth. All these hold up truth and strengthen it. >> >> When the path of truth is trodden, everything else also is done. When the >> root is watered, all the branches are automatically watered. >> >> *Satya* is widely discussed in various Upanishads, including the >> Brihadaranyaka >> Upanishad <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brihadaranyaka_Upanishad> where >> *satya* is called the means to Brahman >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahman>, as well as Brahman (Being, true >> self) In hymn 1.4.14 of Brihadaranyaka Upanishad, *Satya* (truth) is >> equated to Dharma <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharma> (morality, >> ethics, law of righteousness) as >> >> Nothing is higher than the Law of Righteousness (*Dharma*). The weak >> overcomes the stronger by the Law of Righteousness. Truly that Law is the >> Truth (*Satya*); Therefore, when a man speaks the Truth, they say, "He >> speaks Righteousness"; and if he speaks Righteousness, they say, "He speaks >> the Truth!" For both are one. >> — Brihadaranyaka Upanishad, I.4.xiv >> >> Taittiriya Upanishad <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taittiriya_Upanishad>'s >> hymn 11.11 states, "Speak the *Satya* (truth), conduct yourself >> according to the *Dharma* (morality, ethics, law)". >> >> Truth is sought, praised in the hymns of Upanishads, held as one that >> ultimately, always prevails. The Mundaka Upanishad >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mundaka_Upanishad>, for example, states >> in Book 3, Chapter 1 >> >> *सत्य*मेव जयते नानृतं[20] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satya#cite_note-20> >> Translation 1: *Truth* alone triumphs, not falsehood. >> Translation 2: *Truth* ultimately triumphs, not falsehood >> Translation 3: The *true* prevails, not the untrue >> — Mundaka Upanishad, 3.1.6 >> >> Sandilya Upanishad of Atharvanaveda, in Chapter 1, includes ten >> forbearances as virtues, in its exposition of Yoga. It defines *satya* as >> ""the speaking of the truth that leads to the well being of creatures, >> through the actions of one's mind, speech, or body. >> >> TRUTH IS ALWAYS ONE ONLY AND THERE ARE MANY TRUTH WRT MAN SITUATIONS >> DIFFERENT BUT IN EACH SITUATION TRUTH IS one only. Facts are too many. >> Deduction of truth is tough. Truth hence satyam the brahman. KR IRS 8 11 24 >> >> On Thu, 7 Nov 2024 at 22:49, Srinivasan Sridharan < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> There is a misconception amongst people that TRUTH and SATHYAM are the >>> same. >>> . Sathyam engulfs truth and is much more than that . 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