If david can list the tiddlers containing an example I can make a test data 
package as well :)

On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 4:09:50 PM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> I think I need to see an example page in action to understand how you're 
> using
> the sources and outline features.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 1:35:38 PM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Mark S: I did not try your plugin because I was in the process of writing 
>> a large amount of new documentation as well as changing some of the system 
>> tiddlers.
>>
>> Everyone: Please have a look at a significant update to TiddlyBlink (
>> https://giffmex.org/gifts/tiddlyblink.html). I think this is cleaner and 
>> adds more functionality and options.
>>
>> On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 2:13:36 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> You might consider listing the required and recommended plugins in your 
>>> documentation, and maybe where to get them. I was
>>> going to do that in the attached files readme, but ran out of time (see 
>>> below).
>>>
>>> Usually you would not package other peoples' plugins inside of yours, 
>>> even though that might seem convenient. There's the
>>> possibility of plugin conflict, for one thing. 
>>>
>>> I've attached a first pass at making your project into a plugin. I just 
>>> used Tinka, which makes the process pretty easy.
>>>
>>> The main non-intuitive thing is the names for the readme files. They're 
>>> your stem name ($:/plugins/giffmex/tiddlyblink/) followed by "readme", 
>>> "dependents", etc.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 11:46:01 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Mark! Works great. I am making some additional documentation and 
>>>> options for TiddlyBlink, and will notify here when it is ready.
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 12:28:18 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm. It's the colons in your default names. The colon is used as a key 
>>>>> separator in the data dictionary. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok. Delete "TiddlyBlinkFoldData" Now when you run and click on unfold, 
>>>>> it will create a JSON data dictionary which is immune to the ":" problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 9:45:48 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I uploaded it for you to see at 
>>>>>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/tbmetemplatetestfolding.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 11:42:11 AM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Needless to say, it works perfectly when I do it. See below Maybe 
>>>>>>> you could send me or link me what you're doing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 9:27:52 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for your kind and patient efforts to improve TiddlyBlink.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I installed your json attachment in an empty file of TB, and 
>>>>>>>> refreshed, then created 'Parent topic' and with the clock button 
>>>>>>>> created 
>>>>>>>> two child tiddlers. The unfold icon appears for each in the parent 
>>>>>>>> tiddler, 
>>>>>>>> but nothing happens when I click the icon. Interestingly, the child 
>>>>>>>> tiddlers DID show something, but when I clicked hide, it completely 
>>>>>>>> hid it, 
>>>>>>>> with no unhide button or anything, so it disappeared completely. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 11:10:22 AM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's something to try. The attached makes changes to 
>>>>>>>>> $:/.giffmex/ViewTemplate/refstransclude 
>>>>>>>>> and adds a tiddler to track states.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This adds a "fold" or "unfold" icon next to each title. The 
>>>>>>>>> default is folded.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The states of folding are saved in a single data tiddler, so you 
>>>>>>>>> don't have to worry about a lot of background tiddlers building up. 
>>>>>>>>> The 
>>>>>>>>> downside is that the state will be forgotten when the tiddler name is 
>>>>>>>>> changed. Since that is likely to be infrequent, and only results in a 
>>>>>>>>> tiddler defaulting to the closed state, that seems like a minor price 
>>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>>> pay.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just drag and drop (I assume you have backups ;-) )
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 11:15:51 AM UTC-8, David Gifford 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would love this, and it would imitate Roam on this point, but I 
>>>>>>>>>> am not sure how it would work. Wouldn't each tiddler need a separate 
>>>>>>>>>> state 
>>>>>>>>>> tiddler? That would affect # of tiddlers and filesize and I am 
>>>>>>>>>> assuming it 
>>>>>>>>>> would hasten the moment when the file would become sluggish. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If someone were to come up with a viable snippet as to how to do 
>>>>>>>>>> It, I am willing to try it. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Suggestion -- a reveal/hide button around transclusions, so 
>>>>>>>>>>> you're not overwhelmed by larger texts
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>

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