Hi Saq
Yeah, I am not invested in the tiddler type idea, just throwing it out as a
possible answer to the other person's question.
Addressing what you mentioned: There are two basic ways to create a new
tiddler:
1. From a link, which opens it in view mode with a title. In this scenario,
the user can just jump in and write.
2. From a new button, which opens it in edit mode without a title, and
creates the understandable temptation for the user to start writing in edit
mode.
I see two possible options, maybe there are more, for getting around #2.
1. Some kind of hint in the edit template text area: "Title your tiddler,
save changes, and start writing in view mode" Drawback: the eye either
overlooks and/or eventually gets used to the hint and forgets it. But
hopefully by then the habit has become ingrained.
2. A dialogue box when hitting a new button: a place to title the tiddler,
and a 'create' button that creates the tiddler in view mode with the title.
Drawback: tiring for regular users to have to do an extra step for every
new tiddler. Possible workaround: a way for users to turn that off.
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 9:18 AM Saq Imtiaz <saq.imt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> @David: what would be the workflow?
>
> - a button to create a new stream tiddler
> - user clicks button
> - tiddler opens in edit mode, user gives it a title and saves
> - then the user sees the UI for streams?
>
> That's where I was early on in development and it is as simple as a button
> with an action widget, but I find that user story to not be very compelling
> or user friendly. Starting in edit mode, there is a realistic expectation
> to be able to start writing your content. If we start in view mode, then
> the user has to edit the tiddler later to rename it.
>
> There is no reason why this can't be an alternative workflow that we
> offer, but I welcome any suggestions that would make it more intuitive.
>
> Overall, the question of how the user gets started with a new "stream
> tiddler" is one that I am not totally satisfied that we have a good answer
> for yet.
> The options discussed:
> - via view template with a configurable filter
> - a new tiddler type (basically based on a field) via a button
> - a macro that users type into a tiddler where they want the streams
> interface.
>
> Cheers,
> Saq
>
> On Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 3:47:41 PM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> With regard to limiting to certain tiddlers, have you thought about
>> creating this as a new tiddler type?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:43 AM Saq Imtiaz <saq....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 1:16:09 PM UTC+2, Tony K wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Saq once again this is wonderful
>>>>
>>>> is there an easy way to have it only on some tiddlers ? maybe a widget
>>>> <$bulletTiddler /> or something similar
>>>>
>>>
>>> You can try
>>> {{||$:/plugins/sq/bullets/bullet-list-template}}
>>>
>>> I am not the biggest fan of having to add text to a tiddler body to
>>> trigger the UI, so I haven't put a lot of thought in that direction. This
>>> could easily be wrapped in an easier to type macro though. <<streams>>
>>>
>>> Also there is a filter you can use to control on which tiddlers the UI
>>> to add bullets appears.
>>> $:/config/sq/bullets/bullet-enable-filter
>>>
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