Deep stuff! I like those ideas, how TW appeals to the "odd intellectual", and how open/free it is.
Though I'm not sure I understand the implications of bringing this up in this thread: do you mean that the TW community is not interested in having a more accessible layer (in addition to - not instead of - the existing "odd" one)? About TiddlyWiki's description: "a non-linear personal web notebook" Indeed, this is often the first thing a new user will read/consider. I like that it starts with "non-linear", as this is a very user-friendly way to hint at how TW is fundamentally unique. I understand Tones' concern that this might end up covering the fact that TW can also be used in more linear ways... Other parts of that description seem more problematic to me. "personal" suggests it only supports single-user usage; "web" suggests it's web-based (and requires an internet connection); "notebook" might suggest it's just for note-taking (rather than more robust uses). I know this is all explained in the Getting Started tiddler, but for someone who is considering dozens of software alternatives, if the short description already describes what they don't want, this might be enough for them to not continue further. Maybe a better starting point would be the description shown in the Getting Started tiddler: "a unique non-linear notebook for capturing, organising and sharing complex information". A shorter version could be: "*a unique non-linear fully customizable notebook*" On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 5:44:03 PM UTC+1, OGNSYA wrote: > > I'm curious to know what type of people uses TiddlyWiki currently, and > what type of people the project wants to reach? > > I believe that discussing this might help inform many of the conversations > that have been going on, such as the Getting Started page, and the > UI/workflow redesign. > > In case this is not known, here are a few possible guide questions to help > estimate: > (I included an initial answer in all of them, just as a starting point): > > - *What type of people uses TW? *(considering only those who > create/develop) > (49% coders, 49% casual coders, 2% non-coders?) > - *How do they use TW?* (considering only those who create/develop) > (50% very basic usage, 30% uses several features/plugins, 15% > hack/develop plugins, 5% experts?) > - *What proportion of internet users use TW on a frequent basis?* (2% > edit/view, 3% as viewers only?) > - *How many internet users are coders? *(in general, regardless of TW) > - Non-coders (98.5%?) > - Casual coders (0.5%?) > - Coders (1%?) > > This is intentionally very simplified, especially because most of these > questions can't be answered objectively. Regardless, knowing the > community's perception of them is already very useful. This is meant to be > a first draft. Please feel free to correct/suggest changes. (For the > guesses, I partly used some data found online. ) > > *Edit (2020/06/18): to account for view-only users* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/24d047e2-9dc9-4b1e-aa62-f5bec73f9c5bo%40googlegroups.com.
