Welcome back  Mohammad!
Diving in with some heavyweight thoughts!
Fit tiddlywiki on a floppy!...(I found some in an old lap top bag the other 
day....none of my students knew what it was.)
I've not been a party to the dev/ github discussions but as much as new and 
shiny appeals, losing say, tidgraph...NOOOOO.  But then my existing wiki 
isn't going anywhere I guess (at least now I have a backup from 
tiddlyspot!).
Or would it be a case of SOME things breaking, SOME things still working?  
How radical an overhaul is it?
Tiddlywiki classic, 5.1-classic and shiny...hmmm

Ste



On Tuesday, 3 November 2020 at 14:58:40 UTC Charlie Veniot wrote:

> I'm an instant fan of your thoughts.
>
> Your post makes me think of Linux  (Tiny Core Linux 
> <http://tinycorelinux.net/> and, even more so, the stripped-down version: 
> Micro Core Linux.)  It would be neat for TiddlyWiki to have a Debian-like 
> repository <https://packages.debian.org/stable/> and something akin to a 
> package manager.
>
> Yeah, I dream kind of grandiose...
>
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 3:00:21 AM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Tiddlywiki is rapidly improving and you can see great features in the 
>> recent releases. 
>> From 2.1.17+ amazing features have been added to Tiddlywiki! One question 
>> is about the size of empty.html (the virgin Tiddlywiki). See the below table
>>
>> Release   Size (kb)
>> 5.1.12       1820
>> 5.1.15       2025
>> 5.1.17       2033
>> 5.1.19       2153
>> 5.1.21       2235
>> 5.1.22       2197
>> 5.1.12       2282
>>
>> While I love the new features, but, how big a virgin Tiddlywiki  can be? 
>> Assuming many users work with single file mode and using different 
>> Tiddlywiki for different purposes, I think we should set a maximum size, 
>> before going to have bigger empty.html
>>
>>
>> Suggestions
>> *A. Use official plugins*
>> 1. Keep the core as light as possible, go down to 1MB size (strip 
>> everything extra)
>> 2. Put extra features in official plugins
>>
>> *B. Start a new generation *
>> 1.Release TW 5.2 with minimum size core (include only essential part)
>> 2. Leave all backward compatibility to Tiddlywiki 5.1.xx
>> 3. Stop developing 5.1.xx and only release bug fixes
>>
>> If Jeremy can go for a new generation of Tiddlywiki, I may also suggest
>> 1. Sweep the core from all duplicated codes and those retained backward 
>> compatibility and leave them for 5.1.xx
>> 2. Rethink about filters and implement using the more versatile approach, 
>> like those are going on in GitHub (e.g. Saq proposal for multi input 
>> filters)
>> 3. Use flexible switchable page layout
>> 4. Think for a cleaner scripting (remove all duplication, improved 
>> grammar, ... there is a lot of good discussions in the forum and GitHub)
>> 5. Think of a new name (re-branding)
>> 6. ...
>>
>> I am sure people can suggest more here
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>> TW-Scripts <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/> codes, macros, and 
>> solutions in Tiddlywiki
>> TW-Commander <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/> bulk operations on 
>> tiddlers
>> TW-Trashbin <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Trashbin/> a Tiddlywiki 
>> trashbin tool
>> TW-Favorites <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Favorites/> a favorites and 
>> bookmarking tool
>> TW-Todolist <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Todolist/> organize, 
>> prioritize, and plan your work
>>
>> https://github.com/kookma
>>
>>

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