Pardon my ignorance. But what are the benefits of a smaller empty TW5? It seemed to be implied in this thread that this is the case.
Op woensdag 4 november 2020 om 16:00:09 UTC+1 schreef Mohammad: > Hi David, > I assume other language shall be installed on demand! > I have downloaded the latest empty.html from > https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ > > *These are some facts* > > $:/core > has 2047 tiddlers and occupies around *1781 kb* > > Listing all tiddlers with language word in their title using advanced > search [all[shadows]prefix[$:/]search:title[language]] results in > 965 tiddlers and they are *115 kb* (I am not sure how part of these > tiddlers can be distributed separately as language pack) > > There is two themes distributed with empty.html > 1. Vanilla: *73.5 kb* > 2. Snowwhite: *3 kb* > > There are 16 palettes in $:/core which occupies *66 kb* > > Best wishes > Mohammad > > On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 5:00:17 PM UTC+3:30 David Gifford wrote: > >> One thing that takes up space is the set of language tiddlers for >> translating to other languages. English-speakers don't need those, usually. >> What if those could be a plugin? Or else an English-only version stripped >> of those tiddlers? Feels arrogant and colonial even mentioning it. I only >> mention it as one area where TiddlyWiki could be at least a little lighter. >> >> On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 1:00:21 AM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote: >> >>> Tiddlywiki is rapidly improving and you can see great features in the >>> recent releases. >>> From 2.1.17+ amazing features have been added to Tiddlywiki! One >>> question is about the size of empty.html (the virgin Tiddlywiki). See the >>> below table >>> >>> Release Size (kb) >>> 5.1.12 1820 >>> 5.1.15 2025 >>> 5.1.17 2033 >>> 5.1.19 2153 >>> 5.1.21 2235 >>> 5.1.22 2197 >>> 5.1.12 2282 >>> >>> While I love the new features, but, how big a virgin Tiddlywiki can be? >>> Assuming many users work with single file mode and using different >>> Tiddlywiki for different purposes, I think we should set a maximum size, >>> before going to have bigger empty.html >>> >>> >>> Suggestions >>> *A. Use official plugins* >>> 1. Keep the core as light as possible, go down to 1MB size (strip >>> everything extra) >>> 2. Put extra features in official plugins >>> >>> *B. Start a new generation * >>> 1.Release TW 5.2 with minimum size core (include only essential part) >>> 2. Leave all backward compatibility to Tiddlywiki 5.1.xx >>> 3. Stop developing 5.1.xx and only release bug fixes >>> >>> If Jeremy can go for a new generation of Tiddlywiki, I may also suggest >>> 1. Sweep the core from all duplicated codes and those retained backward >>> compatibility and leave them for 5.1.xx >>> 2. Rethink about filters and implement using the more versatile >>> approach, like those are going on in GitHub (e.g. Saq proposal for multi >>> input filters) >>> 3. Use flexible switchable page layout >>> 4. Think for a cleaner scripting (remove all duplication, improved >>> grammar, ... there is a lot of good discussions in the forum and GitHub) >>> 5. Think of a new name (re-branding) >>> 6. ... >>> >>> I am sure people can suggest more here >>> >>> >>> Best wishes >>> Mohammad >>> >>> TW-Scripts <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/> codes, macros, and >>> solutions in Tiddlywiki >>> TW-Commander <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/> bulk operations >>> on tiddlers >>> TW-Trashbin <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Trashbin/> a Tiddlywiki >>> trashbin tool >>> TW-Favorites <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Favorites/> a favorites and >>> bookmarking tool >>> TW-Todolist <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Todolist/> organize, >>> prioritize, and plan your work >>> >>> https://github.com/kookma >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/679627cf-242e-4e55-9113-3a47dd4695b0n%40googlegroups.com.
