Hi Charlie,

Thank you. Well having a stripped out core as a clean light empty.html 
gives more flexibility to developer to create custom editions with many 
customization and keep it still light for sending it through email.

Best wishes
Mohammad

On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 6:28:40 PM UTC+3:30 Charlie Veniot wrote:

> I'm an instant fan of your thoughts.
>
> Your post makes me think of Linux  (Tiny Core Linux 
> <http://tinycorelinux.net/> and, even more so, the stripped-down version: 
> Micro Core Linux.)  It would be neat for TiddlyWiki to have a Debian-like 
> repository <https://packages.debian.org/stable/> and something akin to a 
> package manager.
>
> Yeah, I dream kind of grandiose...
>
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 3:00:21 AM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Tiddlywiki is rapidly improving and you can see great features in the 
>> recent releases. 
>> From 2.1.17+ amazing features have been added to Tiddlywiki! One question 
>> is about the size of empty.html (the virgin Tiddlywiki). See the below table
>>
>> Release   Size (kb)
>> 5.1.12       1820
>> 5.1.15       2025
>> 5.1.17       2033
>> 5.1.19       2153
>> 5.1.21       2235
>> 5.1.22       2197
>> 5.1.12       2282
>>
>> While I love the new features, but, how big a virgin Tiddlywiki  can be? 
>> Assuming many users work with single file mode and using different 
>> Tiddlywiki for different purposes, I think we should set a maximum size, 
>> before going to have bigger empty.html
>>
>>
>> Suggestions
>> *A. Use official plugins*
>> 1. Keep the core as light as possible, go down to 1MB size (strip 
>> everything extra)
>> 2. Put extra features in official plugins
>>
>> *B. Start a new generation *
>> 1.Release TW 5.2 with minimum size core (include only essential part)
>> 2. Leave all backward compatibility to Tiddlywiki 5.1.xx
>> 3. Stop developing 5.1.xx and only release bug fixes
>>
>> If Jeremy can go for a new generation of Tiddlywiki, I may also suggest
>> 1. Sweep the core from all duplicated codes and those retained backward 
>> compatibility and leave them for 5.1.xx
>> 2. Rethink about filters and implement using the more versatile approach, 
>> like those are going on in GitHub (e.g. Saq proposal for multi input 
>> filters)
>> 3. Use flexible switchable page layout
>> 4. Think for a cleaner scripting (remove all duplication, improved 
>> grammar, ... there is a lot of good discussions in the forum and GitHub)
>> 5. Think of a new name (re-branding)
>> 6. ...
>>
>> I am sure people can suggest more here
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>> TW-Scripts <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/> codes, macros, and 
>> solutions in Tiddlywiki
>> TW-Commander <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/> bulk operations on 
>> tiddlers
>> TW-Trashbin <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Trashbin/> a Tiddlywiki 
>> trashbin tool
>> TW-Favorites <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Favorites/> a favorites and 
>> bookmarking tool
>> TW-Todolist <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Todolist/> organize, 
>> prioritize, and plan your work
>>
>> https://github.com/kookma
>>
>>

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