Manish, I gave a more specific answer over in your thread about books and quotes management, since it seems that thread is a better home for detailed discussion of how to handle excerpts/quoted passages.
I'll do a bit more, over at that thread, to clarify what the structure looks like, and why... Here's that thread: https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/Zewezsh2hcU/m/8SOGWrN1AgAJ -Springer On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:11:33 AM UTC-5 manishm...@gmail.com wrote: > Dear Springer > Thank you for your detailed response. I read about the Dynamic Table > feature and am learning to incorporate it. > > If I can re-frame my predicament: Say, I read 50 books in a year. Now, I > have 50 tiddlers in which the notes, bullet points and 2-3 quotes/excerpts > are included in each. > Is it possible for me view all the 100-150 quotes in one tiddler? > > The code which I'm using for the quotes within the tiddler is: > <<<.tc-big-quote > [[Quotes]] <br> > It is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma. But perhaps there is > a key. That key is National Interest > > <<<Churchill > > When I search 'quotes', what i get is a list of 50 Book title tiddlers > which isnt very helpful. It's also awkward to tag every tiddler with > 'Quotes' > > > Would be grateful for your comments. > > Regards > Manish > > > On Sunday, 29 November, 2020 at 1:46:18 am UTC+5:30 springer wrote: > >> Manish, there are different ways to think about organizing quotes. >> >> If I had been working in Tiddlywiki all along, I'd probably set up each >> excerpt as its own tiddler, putting only the actual excerpt in the body of >> the tiddler and using fields for various citation details such as author, >> title, page, meta-title (journal or enclosing book), notes. I'd tag each >> one with "excerpt" and use an excerpt-specific template to make each >> excerpt display with the relevant fields as desired. Then I would use a >> dynamic table for any desired "slice" of tiddlers (filtered based on a >> certain source, or a certain author, or with a certain word or keyword, >> whatever). If you're starting fresh with TiddlyWiki, I recommend this >> granular approach. A tiddler should generally be the smallest informational >> unit that is of interest to you and/or your audience. >> >> In my own case, I had already developed (starting in the 1990s) a >> full-fledged database of research- and teaching-related excerpts using the >> FileMaker database app (which was my software brain prior to TiddlyWiki, >> and still handles most of my document-generation tasks). And my main use >> for excerpts in TiddlyWiki was to organize the excerpts for each particular >> reading, for access during classroom discussion. (It was easy for me to get >> FileMaker to "dress" the excerpts up with various bits of syntax and bundle >> them in sets based on my usual teaching needs. At the time (duing TW >> Classic times) it was easier to copy and paste large sets; I didn't know >> how to import a whole array.) So, I batch-generated an excerpt set for each >> class session, using a combination of <$details> formatting (using >> telmiger's plugin, referenced earlier in this thread) and >> quotation-graphics css. The result, for each chapter or article, is a >> neat-looking "accordion" array of quotes, where the summary for each >> excerpt includes a "teaser" phrase and page number, and the drop-down >> allows us to expand passages of interest as needed during discussion. You >> can hit "edit" within an excerpt-oriented tiddler to see what the guts look >> like: >> https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/ethicsatwes.html#Arisotle%201%20excerpts >> >> ... But again, the reason I didn't take a "granular" approach (one tiddler >> per excerpt) is idiosyncratic, and I don't recommend emulating this aspect >> of my site organization! >> >> I believe some other folks here have actually developed a full-fledged >> biblio tool for tiddlywiki. In particular, if you haven't seen it yet, >> check out Mohammad's Refnotes plugin: https://kookma.github.io/Refnotes/ >> >> -Springer >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-5 manishm...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Springer >>> I have no coding knowledge and have been exploring a way to collate >>> quotes and excerpts. >>> Would it be possible to educate me on the way you have listed the >>> Excerpts in your tiddlywiki. Or could you please direct me to some links >>> that explain the process. >>> Thanks a ton >>> >>> Manish >>> >>> On Friday, 27 November, 2020 at 1:27:15 am UTC+5:30 springer wrote: >>> >>>> Cl0d, exactly what I find marvelous about TiddlyWiki is how much it can >>>> be molded to very different purposes. I maintain different TW5 projects >>>> for >>>> different purposes, with different plugin sets and other customizations >>>> suited to the purposes of each project. >>>> >>>> Two things that I suspect I do more than most people are: >>>> >>>> (1) Make a dynamic table, using the Shiraz plugin, for virtually every >>>> important tag. It offers a great compact way to get the big picture on any >>>> slice that interests me. I used to use TOC-style tiddlers for this >>>> purpose, >>>> and that structure still has uses, but the dynamic table is more powerful. >>>> I love that I can structure each such dynamic table to focus on the fields >>>> that are important for that particular tag. (Of course, you can build a >>>> dynamic table around criteria other than tags, but that's my main >>>> workhorse >>>> use.) I also tend to populate my stylesheet with tag-specific css, so that >>>> there are clear visual cues as to which kind of tiddler we're looking at. >>>> (I use TW for teaching. So, a quiz question tiddler has a look and feel >>>> that differs from an author-specific tiddler or a definition tiddler or a >>>> tiddler focused on excerpts from the readings, etc.) >>>> >>>> (2) Liberally employ a "details" GUI for things that I don't want to >>>> see (or don't want to show to students) unless/until it's time to dig in >>>> deeper. I use telmiger's details plugin, because it's super-flexible about >>>> the contents within the details area (allows any formatting or markup you >>>> can think of within the hidden "pocket" area). But to put ordinary text >>>> elaboration into a details "pocket," Shiraz's details function is simple >>>> and great too. >>>> >>>> If you'd like to poke around on one of my teaching sites, feel free to >>>> visit this link: >>>> https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/ethicsatwes.html#TiddlyWiki >>>> >>>> Enjoy the adventure of discovering the possibilities! >>>> >>>> -Springer >>>> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 2:06:10 PM UTC-5 Cl0d wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi there, >>>>> >>>>> Been using TiddlyWiki for a few weeks now. I'm still learning how to >>>>> cope with the enormous potential offered by TiddlyWiki. >>>>> >>>>> For example, I discovered today that it was possible to create a >>>>> dynamic table of content using keywords. >>>>> >>>>> So I was wondering, what are your best practices, or let's say, >>>>> advices, for using TiddlyWiki ? How does your "basic wiki" look like ? >>>>> What >>>>> plugins and/or custom features do you use ? >>>>> >>>>> I'm still in a transitional phase, meaning that I'm writing my new >>>>> notes in TiddlyWiki to get used to it and I'm at the same time trying to >>>>> discover new tools to organize my future wiki's in the best way possible. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance for every answer. >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/062ea4af-d99a-4bb8-a54a-d89736a63267n%40googlegroups.com.
