THANKS, BIrthe!

Good to hear.....hopefully, this time, I won't have problems.....

We shall see....

Mark

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 4:13:35 PM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:

> Mark,
> The plugins on you list are plugins I am using very much myself, I have 
> not had any problems. I know we can never be sure...used together all of 
> them, but I am optimistic on you behalf. 
> https://github.com/ibnishak/Timimi/releases
> And the how to install: https://ibnishak.github.io/Timimi/
>
> Birthe
> tirsdag den 9. marts 2021 kl. 01.06.15 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:
>
>> I will start a new fresh TW file and then slowly, add one plugin at a 
>> time, if I need it, and make sure it runs on both computers, before adding 
>> anymore. This way I should easily know if any item causes a problem.
>>
>> I have been able to install some browser extensions in workplace browser, 
>> Chrome. Will check out Timimi....
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mark
>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 3:51:42 PM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I really believe the problem for you right now is Noteself and 
>>> tiddlypouch. As I remember it, it was original built to be run from 
>>> Danielos original logging into your own database. Rebuild later for people 
>>> to run their own nodejs wikis. It might have changed since then.
>>> Now as you suggest you could start a new wiki and import the other 
>>> plugins you like, and your own tiddlers. Saving is another question, are 
>>> you able to install browser extension on you workplace browser? If it is 
>>> possible I admit my favourite is Timimi. (lovely backups too!)
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>>
>>> tirsdag den 9. marts 2021 kl. 00.26.33 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:
>>>
>>>> Since I am at work, I decided to go back to file that I last updated 
>>>> successfully here and open it. And it opens up OK
>>>>
>>>> Here's two screenshots of console info for this TW file. You can see 
>>>> that the file opened OK.
>>>>
>>>> Although given what I seen, I'm thinking to start a new fresh TW file 
>>>> without any of Danielo's plugins....and then see what happens on different 
>>>> computers, moving file back and forth.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [image: Marks-TiddlyWiki-Console Info-03-08-21.png]
>>>>
>>>> And this screenshot is taken a bit further down in the list...all about 
>>>> tiddlypouch.....
>>>>
>>>> [image: Marks-TiddlyWiki-Console Info-2-03-08-21.png]
>>>>
>>>> And here's screenshot that shows list of plugins.....sorry but I can 
>>>> seem to widen the view of the list, so right side is cut off a bit.
>>>>
>>>> [image: Marks-TW-v8.png]
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 3:02:00 PM UTC-8 ArchiMark wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Birthe.....well, I thought I had a reason at the time when 
>>>>> installing.....I was following some instructions for setting up TW and it 
>>>>> suggested NoteSelf as a means to save TW file to where you want when you 
>>>>> click save....or at least so I thought....
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like it could be the culprit or one of them....so, sounds like 
>>>>> I should remove it and then see if file opens up OK on work computer.....
>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 1:34:32 PM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I will first admit, that I have never used tiddlypouch. I am sure you 
>>>>>> have a reason. I just wonder - because due to your sending your wiki pr. 
>>>>>> mail to yourself, I was sure you were using a singlefile tiddlywiki.
>>>>>> I have only heard of tiddlypouch before in relation to Danielo's 
>>>>>> NoteSelf....but that might be my mistake.
>>>>>> The fact, that you are not able to start your wiki up - make me think 
>>>>>> of, what Danielo himself called the chicken and egg problem... in the 
>>>>>> discussion here: 
>>>>>> https://forum.noteself.org/t/installing-the-plugins-on-an-existing-tw/24/8
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> mandag den 8. marts 2021 kl. 22.25.59 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Birthe....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's what it says:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DevTools failed to load SourceMap: 
>>>>>>> Could not load content for 
>>>>>>> file:///P:/Wiki/maps/danielo515/tiddlypouch/boot/tpouch-boot.js.map: 
>>>>>>> System error: 
>>>>>>> net::ERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 12:25:53 PM UTC-8 strikke...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good that you send the last screenshot. The last part....starting 
>>>>>>>> with the yellow triangel. refering to 
>>>>>>>> danielo/tiddlypouch.....something. 
>>>>>>>> Sorry I am not really able to read it, but I am sure someone will know 
>>>>>>>> what 
>>>>>>>> to do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> mandag den 8. marts 2021 kl. 20.50.19 UTC+1 skrev sreb...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you, Charlie and (Other) Mark !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's possible my computer has some security settings, given 
>>>>>>>>> the ultra high level of security IT tries to maintain at work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good idea of comparing files side-by-side and check differences.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And agree, Mark S. that it's likely a plugin.....and I may have 
>>>>>>>>> installed the encrypt plugin, will have to check....if so, I can 
>>>>>>>>> delete it 
>>>>>>>>> tonight when I get home and resend it to my work computer and try 
>>>>>>>>> again 
>>>>>>>>> tomorrow morning....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, I looked at the Console pane again and noticed that I 
>>>>>>>>> had not opened up the first error message when I took the snapshot. 
>>>>>>>>> So, 
>>>>>>>>> here's a new screenshot that shows a line of text under the heading 
>>>>>>>>> 'Script 
>>>>>>>>> Error'. Don't know if this helps....but just in case....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image: Marks-TiddlyWiki-Error-03-08-21.png]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:55:48 AM UTC-8 Mark S. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It seems to be happening while loading plugins, which suggests 
>>>>>>>>>> that it might be one of your plugins causing problems.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are you using Danielo's encrypt plugin by any chance? There's 
>>>>>>>>>> some suggestion that it might be that plugin that is causing the 
>>>>>>>>>> problem. I 
>>>>>>>>>> don't believe that that plugin has been updated in a while.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (Other) Mark
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:26:51 AM UTC-8 sreb...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Oops......thanks for catching this...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here's another screenshot. Think this one should be more helpful!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Marks-TiddlyWiki-Error-03-08-21.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 9:45:30 AM UTC-8 Mark S. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You already have your developer's toolbar open. If you click on 
>>>>>>>>>>>> "console" it might (might!) give some hints where the problem is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 9:27:01 AM UTC-8 sreb...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Back at work.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, tried to open the TW file that I re-sent myself from my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MacBookPro last evening.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, get same error as before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's what I get and showing other info about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Marks-TW-Error-03-08-21.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 6:26:21 PM UTC-8 ArchiMark wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Also I think the probability is, that it is your tiddlywiki 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is giving the javascript error. I have seen that same error 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times through the years. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got them after editing a plugin or something. You do not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notice until having saved and refresh the wiki.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now is it possible, you saved your wiki and send it to your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail. Only when you opened it again, you saw the error. If that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case, you would have the same error, when trying to open the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same wiki on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you  home computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Birthe"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for another post, but realized I did  not address your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input quoted above from your last post above.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I saved TW file on MacBookPro after updating it and then 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emailed it to myself at work. Then got javascript error when 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to open 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on work computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today, I opened the updated TW file on my MacBookPro and it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opens OK, no errors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 6:20:35 PM UTC-8 ArchiMark 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Birthe, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure, will have to try.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I noted in my previous post, when you insert a USB flash 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive in work computer, a window opens with message that drive 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encrypted with a password needed, if you try to copy any files 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer to the flash drive. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the past, I was able to copy files from flash drive to my 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer. Don't know if this is still true, as I have not tried 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this in a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, don't know for sure what will happen if I try to run 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> portableapp from flash drive, will have to try and see what 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just installed Chrome browser now on my home MacBookPro 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the TW file opened up OK. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, if I don't get situation fixed on work computer, then I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably will use Chrome at home (thereby matching Chrome on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work computer) 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and avoiding any incompatibility issues from using different 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browsers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, just checked TW file that I modified on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MacBookPro with Firefox before emailing to myself at work 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wednesday evening.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Per TW tutorial video, I did create a new tiddler with a tag 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "$:/tags/Sidebar and in the type field, selected 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "text/x-markdown" and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below that in fields put "list-before" and to the right of that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "$:/core/ui/SideBar/Open". The idea was to create a new tab in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the right 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hand side pane called 'Content'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could this cause issue with file on my work computer or is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it more likely problem is due to using two different browsers?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 3:17:25 PM UTC-8 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you sure it would be okay to use a USB flash drive, I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know many companies do not allow it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do realise of course that would be a handy solution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also I think the probability is, that it is your tiddlywiki 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is giving the javascript error. I have seen that same 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error several 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times through the years. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got them after editing a plugin or something. You do not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notice until having saved and refresh the wiki.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now is it possible, you saved your wiki and send it to your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail. Only when you opened it again, you saw the error. If 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case, you would have the same error, when trying to open the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same wiki on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you  home computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Birthe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lørdag den 6. marts 2021 kl. 23.22.04 UTC+1 skrev 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sreb...@gmail.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Birthe, thank you for your input.....yes, if download is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exe file, then probably won't work. I usually get an error 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message window 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pop up when I try that says, I need to enter an admin 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passwork, which only 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our IT guys have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stan, thanks, I can try running off of USB flash drive. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do know that when you insert a flash drive, it pops up a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window saying that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you try to copy anything to the drive, it will 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatically encrypt 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your drive....but don't know if it will let me run an app off 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of it....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark S, thank you for your input....I only save TW file by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clicking on the checkmark icon in TW.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:22:44 PM UTC-8 Mark S. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The part I'm not seeing in your description is how you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saved in the first place. If you used "ctl-s" or the "save" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button of your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browser, then you will not have a working TW file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some other Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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