This tiddler may also be of interest:
http://jon.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BSideBarOptions%20in%20the%20Backstage%5D%5D

On Mar 15, 5:13 pm, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Mans for joining the conversation!
>
> > I feel the backstage should be hidden as default - Maybe it could be
> > accessed as a checkbox option you could put in the backstage in the
> > Tweaks tab??
>
> I agree it could be hidden as default. In TiddlySpace when closed you
> get the icon in the top right hand corner which doesn't seem so
> intrusive but invites one to click on it and explore further.
>
> > I don't quite get the point, where you say that "the new tiddler
> > button was readily available, and I didn't have to scroll to the top
> > of the page to click it."
> > It's still located in the SideBarOptions tiddler isn't it? - in the
> > menuBar at the top of the PageTemplate - so you'll still have to
> > scroll up to see it?!
>
> Sorry I didn't explain this well. One could imagine making the
> backstage "stick" to the top of the page so that when you scroll it
> remains at the top. If there was a new tiddler button within the
> backstage, one could easily access it without having to scroll.
>
> > The new tiddler is hidden in readonly mode, and I feel/think that the
> > permaview button should be available to readers who would want to
> > share a link to all open tiddlers (story).. <snip>
> > I feel this is one of the advantages of a TW - which readers should
> > become aware of - and it should be as obvious as possible :-)
>
> Agreed, but for a first time user they are not essential to the
> experience. I see the closeAll and permaview buttons as useful
> features which one grows used to then uses heavily. I've seen some
> TiddlyWiki themes remove these buttons all together, so putting them
> in the backstage would make sense from that point of view in making
> them available across tiddlyspace.
>
> > > The downside of putting these buttons here is the height of the
> > > backstage increases, it is a bit more overwhelming and it also seems
> > > to extend the original remit of the backstage.
>
> > Yep - I don't like that...
> > I was quite thrilled, back then, when the backstage was made very
> > slim.
>
> An implementation detail. I wonder if the new tiddler/close all/
> permaview buttons could be made part of the backstage whilst keeping
> it slim.http://twitter.com/manages to keep it's thin whilst packing
> in lots of functionality.

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