Hi Simon Knowing nothing about screenreaders, programming and all that. Do you think hint text on the buttons would solve your problem? Maybe you would like to try it out? In the link following I have tried to put text on at least some of the buttons for tiddlercontrols and pagecontrols. The link is to an empty TW 5 from Tiddlywiki.com with the above mentioned changes only.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22820223/EmptyTW5_5.0.12.html Birthe Sorry if I am totally misunderstanding. On Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:38:47 AM UTC+2, Simon Eigeldinger wrote: > > hi Jeremy, > > got it working on my system. > currently using the code from the github repo. > > maybe the following would be a good idea to add to the current wiki: > 1 labeling all buttons with meaningful texts as talked before > 2 maybe labeling the … link for the search box with Search. > 3 labeling the × buttons with better text. maybe the word close. > 4 adding different aria roles as also written somewhere > 5 adding a heading level 1 tag for the beginning of each tiddler so you > can nicely jump to each tiddler. > maybe could faked with css to normal text if sighted people might not > like it all that much. *smile* > screenreaders have various commands to navigate to all different types > of elements like headings in various levels, buttons, links visited or > not visited, all kinds of other form fields, lists, aria roles, tables. > > cool would be if the points 1, 3 and 5 could be fixed in the next days > or so. i don't know how much work it is to label a few buttons in tw5's > code. > > greetings, > simon > > > > > Am 13.06.2014 12:08, schrieb Jeremy Ruston: > > Hi Simon > > > >> as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader. > > > > Terrific. I'm very keen to get TiddlyWiki working well with > screenreaders > > (it's on the roadmap as "better ARIA support"). It would be great to get > > your feedback as we iterate the necessary improvements. > > > > Getting it working well is largely a matter of reviewing all the markup > TW > > generates to ensure that it looks appropriate in the screenreader. I've > > added a ticket on GitHub for the issues that you mention here: > > > > https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/650 > > > > If you find any related issues please add a comment here or on the > ticket. > > > >> btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe > > soneone could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i > > might need. > > > > You just need to install Node.js from nodejs.org, and then install > > TiddlyWiki itself with `npm install tiddlywiki`. Full instructions here: > > > > http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js > > > > Best wishes > > > > Jeremy > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:56 AM, <simon.ei...@vol.at <javascript:>> > wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I just saw that TiddlyWiki 5 is around. > >> as a blind person i thought let's see how it does using a screenreader. > >> i have figured out that there are a bunch of unlabeled buttons so the > >> screenreader just announces the word button and nothing more. > >> maybe they just include a icon and no text. > >> for example the buttons open, recent, tools, and more are labeled > >> correctly. > >> i also saw there are buttons which are just labeled with × so i don't > know > >> what those do either. > >> > >> would be cool if someone could label all the buttons which have no > >> apropriate labels. > >> > >> btw how do i create a single page wiki from the source code? maybe > soneone > >> could tell me that step by step and tell me which dependencies i might > need. > >> > >> > >> i have linux and windows machines. > >> > >> greetings and thanks, > >> simon > >> > >> -- > >> Simon Eigeldinger > >> simon.ei...@vol.at <javascript:> > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "TiddlyWiki" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > >> email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > >> To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:>. > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Simon Eigeldinger > Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/domasofan/ > E-Mail <http://www.twitter.com/domasofan/E-Mail>: simon.ei...@vol.at > <javascript:> > MSN: simon_ei...@hotmail.com <javascript:> > ICQ: 121823966 > Jabber: doma...@andrelouis.com <javascript:> > > --- > Diese E-Mail ist frei von Viren und Malware, denn der avast! Antivirus > Schutz ist aktiv. > http://www.avast.com > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
