On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 10:33:58 AM UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> This was originally intended as a post for a github discussion on "Hidden
> tags
> <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1366#issuecomment-70085704>"
> but I figure it could be of general interest.
>
Again. IMO hiding information is wrong. If information is hidden it's just
bloat and probably should be removed.
> Let me give you a concrete example of this:
>
Using your example and say that the text below is your tiddler text
content.
> Just an hour ago I came up with a brilliant idea (yes, they're all
> brilliant ;-) that we should have a "TW mockup notation" consisting of
> graphic images, such as a generic "blank tiddler", a "blank button", a
> "blank tab", a "blank tagpill" etc so that anyone easily can create nice
> mockups *in TW* to illustrate ideas (primarily for the TW community, I
> guess). The idea is still very rough and I've pretty much only made a quick
> tiddler to note down a few words so I don't forget the idea when my brain
> whizzes off in other direction.
>
> Where does this idea come from? Well, other than that I illustrate a lot
> of my ideas to explain them, this is probably inspired by Astrids railroads
> and Jeremys talk about different notations in TW. And quite possibly also
> by the poster hullabaloo. These are associations *I* make, and it gives
> the concept a context both in content and time.
>
---- end of content ----
tags: concept, idea, mockup, rank4
hidden tags: graphics, illustration, paint.net, railroad, Astrid, draft,
sketch, notation, model, Duarte,
a) railroad, notation and Astrid
- are part of the content text and redundant. so hiding them is just
waste of time.
- remove them from the hidden tag list, because they are part of the text
b) illustrate (in text) vs illustration as hidden tag
- If you search for "illustrat" .. the tag and the text give you the
tiddler title.
- so no need to have them both
- Due to the weakness of the current search mechanism we can't detect
"illustrate" if we search for "illustration".
- If you search for "ilustrat" you'll get no result at all
- But these problems can't be solved with hidden tags
- What we need here is something that's called "word stemming" as en
extension for the search mechanism
I know, that I'm rude, if I say, just remove your hidden tags, if they are
part of the text already. But what is the purpose of your hidden tags here?
- They are key words
- Reminders to yourself, that you can improve your idea when you have
time to think about it.
*So my suggestion for a)* is simple:
Move your hidden tags at the end of your text and make them visible
information for every one, that reads your tiddler. So you can work with
it. ... Hiding information is wasting resources.
eg Your tiddler text could look like this:
! Idea
>
> Just an hour ago I came up with a brilliant idea (yes, they're all
> brilliant ;-) that we should have a "TW mockup notation" consisting of
> graphic images, such as a generic "blank tiddler", a "blank button", a
> "blank tab", a "blank tagpill" etc so that anyone easily can create nice
> mockups *in TW* to illustrate ideas (primarily for the TW community, I
> guess). The idea is still very rough and I've pretty much only made a quick
> tiddler to note down a few words so I don't forget the idea when my brain
> whizzes off in other direction.
>
> Where does this idea come from? Well, other than that I illustrate a lot
> of my ideas to explain them, this is probably inspired by Astrids railroads
> and Jeremys talk about different notations in TW. And quite possibly also
> by the poster hullabaloo. These are associations *I* make, and it gives
> the concept a context both in content and time.
>
!!!! Related Topics
>
> graphics, illustration, paint.net, railroad, Astrid, draft, sketch,
> notation, model, Duarte,
>
Now your hidden tags are not hidden any more but have the priority and
visibility they deserve.
When you have time for refactoring the text some terms may become real tags
and some terms me be deleted, because the are part of the text now.
- Your search results will be the same, because the text area will be
responsible for the hits.
- No need to modify the TW core
- You can use this mechanism out of the box. -> Now!
*A solution for b) will need a plugin*
There are javascript libraries, that allow you to stem words [1] so
illustration, illustrate and even ilustrait will be found, if done right.
But as I said. Hidden tags are no solution to this problem.
have fun!
mario
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stemming
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