Hi Mat, > There will be tiddlers that are difficult to find, as exemplified by the tiddler Tagging <http://tiddlywiki.com/#Tagging> and someone curious about how to use tags and therefore searches "tags".
Part of the difficulty is the word-stemming issue that Mario has mentioned. At present, the search system looks for *exact* matches only, so a search for *tags* will not find *tagging*. At least the search system is case-insensitive :) But there's also the issue of synonyms and controlled vocabularies. The user might search for *labels* or *categories*, unaware that TiddlyWiki terminology uses the word *tag*. Perhaps it would be nice if the search system made it clear which of the results were found as *tags*, just as it currently indicates which of the results were found in *titles*. One can imagine a dedicated mechanism for searching* only* the tags, perhaps as a filter at the top of the Tags tab in the sidebar. Perhaps the Tags tab should be promoted to the top level of the sidebar, as at http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/, where users would discover it more easily. > Note that this is an example of a carefully designed and tagged tiddler. But *has* the *Tagging* tiddler been sufficiently carefully designed and tagged? In my opinion, it contains too much information – too many sections that really belong in tiddlers of their own. And I think the *Tagging* tiddler should be called *Tags*, as that's a more likely thing for people to search for. ("Tags" are concrete things; "tagging" is an action – more abstract and complicated-seeming.) The *Tagging*/*Tags* tiddler currently carries the *Concepts* tag. In other words, it's been filed (correctly) under *Concepts*. Likewise, other tiddlers that discuss how to use tags should be filed under (i.e. tagged with) *Tags*. Tags are such an important concept in TiddlyWiki that it's slightly surprising that tiddlywiki.com doesn't yet have a *Tags* tag. > If we delegate ad hoc tags to be part of the text, we have a problem when the tiddler is not really common text. I'm not fully understanding the difference between an ad hoc tag and any other tag. A tag X is just a way of saying "I want to file this tiddler under X". The neat thing about tags, of course, is that – unlike folder-based filing systems – you can file the same tiddler under *several* tags. The table of contents (TOC) can then present your filing system *as if* it was folder-based, and you can choose which tags participate in the TOC. Perhaps an ad hoc tag is merely a tag that isn't attached to the TOC, i.e. a tag whose tiddler isn't tagged *TableOfContents* or whatever. – æ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
