Hi Josiah,

I might be an even more naïve user than yourself. I think it's safe to say 
that the basic users of the world really don't think about making backups 
of anything. At all. Ever. No matter how many, many, many times they are 
told to do so. Just me speaking from the pov of being the most tech-savvy 
person in my family. And one of the things I loved about TWClassic is that 
it did that backup thing for you. So on the one hand, yeah, it isn't 
necessarily a TW thing, but on the other it is because it originally had 
that functionality built in and there's an expectation for it to continue.

I myself drifted away from TW during that period of not being able to 
easily save via the browser and came back once TiddlyFox was available. I 
use TW at work for project management, and need it to be easy to save. I 
don't care how that is implemented. I've changed jobs and now only have 
IE10 for a browser and was really worried I'd have to use Outlook for task 
management (XP). I also don't have the ability to update anything without 
Admin permission, so installing the IE tiddly addon felt like a huge win, 
but I still get the save as dialog every so often. An approach like Eric's 
is great for me (and one I hadn't thought of because I generally hate that 
"(n)" thing). Also, because of TWClassic, I'm already used to deleting 
extraneous files from my TW folders. That little backup folder could get 
pretty full pretty quickly.

At the end of the day, I don't think the smoothness of saving is what's 
going to keep TW from spreading to the masses. It's the documentation and 
the learning curve. I kept away from TW5 because the $:\ notation seemed so 
foreign to me at first. Then I got this job with no FireFox and was forced 
to engage TW5. I was getting to know it via Cardo when IT updated my system 
and broke it. I'm not sure why now but all I get on Cardo is the RSOD, but 
I could still use vanilla TW5. This probably wasn't the best way to 
approach learning, but now I'm building my own method of task management as 
I go. The thing is I know none of my family and very few of my friends 
would want to invest the time needed to learn TW and the multiple languages 
associated with it. They would take one look at the editor UI when making 
their first tiddler and would peace out. But then I don't think they're 
Jeremy's audience anyway. This a creative tool for creative people who 
enjoy tinkering. IMO anyway.

All of this is leading to my opinion that the simplest way to save should 
probably be the only way to save and it's up to the user to make those 
backups as with every doc on their computer. One button saving with backups 
was nice, but I think it's time we let it go.

Peace,
Anita

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