Hi Josiah, I might be an even more naïve user than yourself. I think it's safe to say that the basic users of the world really don't think about making backups of anything. At all. Ever. No matter how many, many, many times they are told to do so. Just me speaking from the pov of being the most tech-savvy person in my family. And one of the things I loved about TWClassic is that it did that backup thing for you. So on the one hand, yeah, it isn't necessarily a TW thing, but on the other it is because it originally had that functionality built in and there's an expectation for it to continue.
I myself drifted away from TW during that period of not being able to easily save via the browser and came back once TiddlyFox was available. I use TW at work for project management, and need it to be easy to save. I don't care how that is implemented. I've changed jobs and now only have IE10 for a browser and was really worried I'd have to use Outlook for task management (XP). I also don't have the ability to update anything without Admin permission, so installing the IE tiddly addon felt like a huge win, but I still get the save as dialog every so often. An approach like Eric's is great for me (and one I hadn't thought of because I generally hate that "(n)" thing). Also, because of TWClassic, I'm already used to deleting extraneous files from my TW folders. That little backup folder could get pretty full pretty quickly. At the end of the day, I don't think the smoothness of saving is what's going to keep TW from spreading to the masses. It's the documentation and the learning curve. I kept away from TW5 because the $:\ notation seemed so foreign to me at first. Then I got this job with no FireFox and was forced to engage TW5. I was getting to know it via Cardo when IT updated my system and broke it. I'm not sure why now but all I get on Cardo is the RSOD, but I could still use vanilla TW5. This probably wasn't the best way to approach learning, but now I'm building my own method of task management as I go. The thing is I know none of my family and very few of my friends would want to invest the time needed to learn TW and the multiple languages associated with it. They would take one look at the editor UI when making their first tiddler and would peace out. But then I don't think they're Jeremy's audience anyway. This a creative tool for creative people who enjoy tinkering. IMO anyway. All of this is leading to my opinion that the simplest way to save should probably be the only way to save and it's up to the user to make those backups as with every doc on their computer. One button saving with backups was nice, but I think it's time we let it go. Peace, Anita -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/c1ee3ffb-6473-4069-beb0-173bd994d019%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.