On Friday, 17 March 2017 03:14:39 UTC+11, A M Alfaro wrote: > > Arlen, > > > I'm a part of the minority which cannot use USB sticks at work. Security > recognizes and blocks flash drives. The more restrictive my environment > becomes, the more I dread the day I can't even get TW at work. I tired to > email a copy of my project management wiki to myself at home and it was > blocked based on content and file size. I imagine one day I won't be able > to email myself an empty wiki from home to work, which is what I did to get > it last month. I could get to the website but couldn't download an empty > copy. > > --- > > And > > > I think I get the analogy you're trying to make, but I believe the premise > is slightly off because Excel is a complete package, meaning it's designed > from top to bottom for all "parts" to work together. Tiddlywiki and the > browsers are not designed that way. The only way to solve that would be for > Jeremy to repackage the single file application as that "Excel"-type of > program. I don't know anything about the JSON side of TW, so it could be > that it provides this type of solution (?). >
No - I haven't expressed myself clearly, but I think we actually agree. The problem is that TW *isn't* a single-file architecture. It needs other programs to support it, not just an OS. and now, increasingly those programs don't. So I think the problem is deep. > > Also for clarification, TiddlyFox is just a FireFox addon that smooths the > user's saving experience. It isn't a tool being manipulated by TW which > seems to be how you're describing it. In fact, what you're describing as > the future of TW is already in trouble and continues to be TW's recurring > problem. Browser security continues to evolve in ways that close off the > function TW needs to smoothly save over itself. That elegance is at the > mercy of the browser developers. > > My bad - I was thinking TiddlyDesk, but my fingers were thinking something else. IMO TiddlyDesk is the only future of the so-called single-file TW. > ---- > > > I completely get that mine is an unpopular opinion but I'm not seeing any > way around it: Jeremy's fallback measure of using the Save dialog will > become the only available way of saving TW in the future. I don't think of > it as inelegant; I think TW users just aren't used to it and are loathe to > accept it. Like I said before, we got used to a different experience. We > have the expectation of it. Maybe it's time we reset our expectations on > this one thing? Is it truly so disruptive to the user experience? I don't > think so. > > From my point of view, it's actually much easier now that TW "falls back" > to the Save dialog. > > Peace, > Anita > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/aff9590b-642a-40c9-b1b7-01d359502616%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
