Ciao Mat There is *much *in your reply. You articulated ONE thing spectacularly well ...
but the general problem is of course how people should find (and find out > about) everything concerning TW. > I agree the issue is not plugins per se. Finding them is merely *an instance* of that broader issue. IF I can get my brain to coordinate the needed clarity on this I will start another post from the NEEDED starting point. Best wishes Josiah On Thursday, 27 April 2017 18:55:38 UTC+2, Mat wrote: > > Josiah, > > > I had noticed Erwan's Community Search. >> <http://erwanm.github.io/tw-community-search/> But I never used it much >> because (1) its very incomplete, (2) way behind now, (3) has lots of links >> that go nowhere (deceased links, old). >> >> What I did NOT know till I read your post was that folk with online stuff >> need to do a couple of things to get it to track their work. *In other >> words it is tardy simply because so few people are signed onto it*. >> >> My 1st question is basic: DO PEOPLE WHO ARE DEVELOPING STUFF EVEN KNOW >> THIS MECHANISM EXISTS? >> > > > That is why the Community Search is not enough per se. It aims to help > people find stuff but if people don't even find the Community Search... no > cigar. This is why I keep coming back to TWederation. That is a system that > builds on personal incentives and social interaction. It is a LOT easier to > add notes if I do it for my own sake than it is to actively share them. For > example, just the fact that you have plugins X, Y and Z installed are of > potential value, if others knew. You have those plugins because of personal > incentives. If you also happen to, say, blog for others to read, I think > this is also more likely if you do it in your own TW than e.g here on the > boards where you are not in control of your text. > > You ask "Do developers know about the Community Search?". Not unless > anybody told them. And there is not enough personal incentive to do so, or > even to keep the Community Search in mind. (for example, you knew about it > but still don't talk about it... not out of evilness but I'm guessing > your're of course not thinking of it much.) Besides, few people have as > much time as you and I to write on boards like this. Definitely a luxury. > > Other than the boards, I'd say people only "read" tiddlywiki.com. But the > Community Search is presented on tiddlywiki.com just like any other > community site/plugin/whatever. It is not "promoted" or referred to in any > other tiddler that I know of. So, my guess is newcomers simply don't get to > know about it. Jeremy is the gatekeeper to tiddlywiki .com and he is doing > a fantastic job, but he is only one man and IMO simply adding a tiddler for > each reported site is not enough. There is no categorization or context to > find the info in. And the links are not updated. Besides, his super skills > are better used on advanced stuff. > > ...so again, TWedreation, driven by "the masses" is my best shot for an > answer to this information-spreading problem. > > > My 2nd question is: Why are we not doing more to ACTIVELY PROMOTE such >> tracking of developments in TW Erwan's thing already makes possible? >> > > I try to bring it up on the discussion forum every now and then (like > now). But, there is also some mental resistance to do this because the > Community Search is not designed the way I would personally have preferred > it. The biggest problem is that is appears outdated and the HUGE thing that > it actually updates EVERY day is too subtle. > > But, yeah, you knew about it. You're one of the more active fellas here. > And still you're not actively promoting it. Why? > > > My 3rd question is: Why are *you* not using it :-) >> > > As noted, I typically create a new site (a tiddlyspot) for each new > creation. And one has to report every site to the Community Search OR > report one "main site" into which one writes the other urls. I do have my > "blog" TWaddle reported... but TWaddle became passive a year or two ago > (because there was no good mechanism to save only public/ready posts. I > recently solved this and I'm fiddling aournd with a revamp for TWaddle.) so > reporting each new thingy I make is... ufff... > > TWederation is also the only thing I can think of where each person > himself decides how the data is to be presented, since it is in their own > TWs. "I want to prioritize all fetched posts from Josiah", "I want to > delete all posts not starred", etc. "I want an alert every time I fetch > tiddlers containing the word plugin". Can't do that here or on > tiddlywiki.com. > > > <:-) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. 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