How about reserving it for version X/6?

On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 11:40:29 AM UTC+3, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Adam
>
> Your sketch is great — it’s lively and cheerful in a way that 
> non-designers like me can never achieve. I’d love to see what you can do 
> with more time.
>
> But, as you maybe guessed, I’m not super keen on changing the logo, for a 
> bunch of reasons:
>
> * Changing it will be surprisingly expensive in terms of my time and 
> attention — the current logo is embedded in several TiddlyWiki-related 
> software projects, it’s also used on social media. The problem here is the 
> opportunity cost: changing the logo consumes a bunch of time on fiddly 
> changes but doesn’t really get the project any closer to its goals
>
> * Motovun Jack has been the logo for TiddlyWiki5 since the project started 
> in 2011, with a self-avowed goal of having a lifetime of 25 years. Taking a 
> long view of this project, I don’t mind improving and refining the logo (as 
> Mozilla have done), but I don’t like the idea of completely changing it to 
> a different animal while we’re still in the first 25 years
>
> * Motovun Jack became the logo for two reasons. Firstly, I met him and 
> struck up a friendship when I was on a brief holiday just as I left my job 
> at BT to pursue working on TW5 full time. He was sitting by me as I 
> scribbled the first notes of my plans for the project. Secondly, I reasoned 
> that a cat is a consumer of tiddlers…
>
> Meanwhile, when I look at TiddlyWiki 5 I see a few areas where a skilled 
> designer could bring improvements that might benefit all users:
>
> * The “Snow White” theme is pale and lifeless, and doesn’t use typography 
> well
> * The “edit template” is jumbled and confusing, with no clear visual 
> hierarchy
> * The TW5 default colour palettes are a good start, but not great
>
> In summary, I’m happy to consider tweaks/improvements to the current logo, 
> but I’m much more excited about the other areas where skills like yours can 
> bring so much more value.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> On 21 Aug 2018, at 14:19, Adam Shepherd <krr...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> New forum member here.
> I discovered TW about a year ago and I'm completely in love with it since. 
> I never understood the cat.
> I'm a designer and it took me precisely 7 minutes to cook up a square-ish 
> (in its aspect-ratio, but the actual fish is intended to be friendly hence 
> the curved lines) fish logo for TW that I think is better than the cat. It 
> is more thematically linked. I also incorporated the brilliant idea of the 
> poster. 
> Keep in mind that this is a *VERY ROUGH, FAST SKETCH* but I imagine it 
> could work. Think of it as a proof of concept.
>
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> Let me know if there is an official interest for a logo design for TW. I'd 
> be very, *very* happy to do it. (I'd love to give something back for this 
> amazing tool and I'm not good at coding, but logo design...half my life was 
> spent doing that.)
>
> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 11:08:25 AM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
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>> Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> While a fish makes more sense, the cat is a better basis for a logo.
>>>
>>
>> I agree. Not least that a cat can occupy a square or a circle. Last year 
>> Twitter forced AVIs into circles. The several TW cats on there (
>> https://twitter.com/TiddlyTweeter/lists/tiddlywiki-international/members) 
>> all needed to tweak a bit. But a Fish would have had a hard time and 
>> require a very good re-designer. In any case, fish are too long.
>>
>> J. 
>>
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