At the meta level, who are these people and how do we know they'll be here in say, 3 years? Is there a list of groups they're already hosting? Or a way to review them? Seems like you would want to know how the service has been working for actual groups at size.
-- Mark On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 2:35:15 AM UTC-7, Arlen Beiler wrote: > > I was about to forward this to Jeremy and then remembered that last time I > emailed him directly he gave me his thoughts and then said I should post it > on the group so we can hear everyone's thoughts. I'm pretty sure he would > say that this time too. So here it is. > > Another software community much like TiddlyWiki has been using Yahoo > Groups for years. Just a few weeks ago they finally moved to groups.io. > This is the email announcing that move and listing the reasons and > benefits. Perhaps it has what we need. I thought the hashtag feature was > especially interesting. > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: rde...@dc3.com <javascript:> [ASCOM-Talk] <ascom...@yahoogroups.com > <javascript:>> > Date: Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 06:42 > Subject: [ASCOM] ALERT: ASCOM-Talk is Moving. Please Read This > To: <ascom...@yahoogroups.com <javascript:>> > > > > > Greetings ASCOM-Talk members -- > > > With 2018 being the 20th Anniversary year of the ASCOM Initiative, it is > time we moved away from the outdated Yahoo! Groups system and onto a much > more modern and functional forum system. Also, along with this improvement, > we are offering separate discussion areas to our two primary groups: > Platform users and ASCOM application / driver developers. > > > Why are we doing this? > > > - Yahoo! has started injecting commercial advertisements into the > message list > - Posting with inline images is klunky and sometimes only email > subscribers can post or see them > - Attachments are not saved with messages, forcing us to use the > "Files" system which has become clogged with what is now mostly trash. > - You cannot make corrections to a post once it is out there > - People complain of lost messages > - Conversations are hard to follow in many cases > - Searching is severely limited > > The ASCOM Talk moderators took a look at the many newer and more powerful > systems out there and we have chosen Groups.io <https://groups.io/> as > our new platform. Here are some of the reasons we picked Groups.io > <https://groups.io/>: > > > - It supports email-based participation like Yahoo. We considered this > a 100% essential requirement. Only a few of the forums out there can even > do it and Groups.io <https://groups.io/> does a great job. > - The site itself, and its discussion interface is simple, clean, and > minimalistic. I personally found Yahoo! Groups difficult to use and > non-intuitive, perhaps because it is an afterthought interface on an > old-fashioned 'listserv' mailer. > - Only an email address is required to join, no frustrating and > confusing requirement for a Yahoo! login and forced yahoo.com email > etc. > - We can integrate with GitHub, the Open Source repository used by the > ASCOM Platform. This feature has made Groups.io <https://groups.io/> > very popular with Open Source projects. > - It supports hashtags for enhanced searching, a vast improvement over > Yahoo. > - You can elect to receive only the messages you want: Mute threads > and hashtags. THIS IS HUGE! From time to time we all see giant threads > discussing something we are not interested in and that, as email > subscribers, clog up our email box. You will be able to mute these at the > source in the new system. > - Separate Help and Developer forums will also reduce the noise for > each of those groups. Most importantly, new users with Platform problems > won't need to be exposed to obscure-looking programming discussions when > all they want is help with their installation or usage. > - You can post new threads and replies with Rich Text/HTML, Markdown, > or plain text. Their editing interface is excellent. > - You can also edit already-posted messages. How many times have you > wished you could go back and fix errors in your posts? > - Other modern-day conveniences are provided like a Group Wiki, > Calendar, Database, Chat service, and a Photos library. > - We can migrate existing users from Yahoo, eliminating the need to > make people re-subscribe. > > A number of busy astronomy groups including several LX200 groups > <https://groups.io/search?q=LX200>, Losmandy > <https://groups.io/g/Losmandy_users/topics>, Gemini > <https://groups.io/g/Gemini_users/topics>, MI-250 > <https://groups.io/g/MI-250/topics>, and Mallincam > <https://groups.io/g/MallinCam> have already moved from Yahoo! to > Groups.io. ASCOM is using the paid groups.io service and we have > contributors who will fund this, so you can be assured of not seeing > adverts in the future should groups.io decide to enhance its revenue > stream on the free version of its service. > > > What will happen? > > > Shortly, we will initiate the groups.io automatic migration process and > our request will be added to their migration queue. When complete, all of > the historic ASCOM-Talk messages and our current user base will have been > migrated and we will close the Yahoo forum. 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