On 9/14/2010 8:28 AM, Dan Rae wrote:

I hate to disagree with John who knows a heck of lot more than I ever will, but in this case it will protect the oven from cooking up if the control circuit fails with the heater full on, which can happen.

I did have a 5370B with a 10811 that had a bad thermistor in it as well as an open fuse. I'd guess that's why -hp- fitted it.

But yes, the thermal fuses can and do fail open for no good reason, and it sounds like this has happened here, but I would not recommend shorting it out permanently.

Dan



On the fuse subject, here is a post from Rick Karlquist early this year. Rick was an HP engineer who was part of the 10811 team.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Rick Karlquist [mailto:rich...@karlquist.com]
 Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 8:48 PM
 To:thol...@woh.rr.com  <mailto:thol...@woh.rr.com>; Discussion of precise time 
and frequency
 measurement
 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP10811 losing EFC

 The fuse in an interesting topic.  It is a thermal fuse, not an electrical
 one.  It deals with oven failure.  It does not prevent the oven from
 failing, but rather limits the amount of damage and smoke if the
 oven runs away.  The main purpose is to limit toxic outgassing,
 rather than to protect the oscillator, although it may
 accidentally do that.  I have never heard of a case
 of an oven running away, although it is theoretically possible,
 for example, if the thermistor is open or disconnected.
 (I have never heard of a thermistor failing either for that matter.)
 The fuse cannot be soldered in for the obvious reason that it
 cannot tolerate solder temperatures.  It is instead inserted into
 a non gold plated socket.  In 99+% of "fuse failures", the fuse
 has not blown (as can be confirmed with an ohmmeter) but instead
 is not making contact.  You might see if your fuse is still good.
 In any event, I recommend bypassing the fuse with a jumper and
 not worrying about it.  There is far more chance of the fuse
 "failing" than the oven running away.

 Rick Karlquist N6RK




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