Hi I would think the old site on the Indiana / Illinois boarder would be a pretty good pick for a single transmitter location.
Bob On Nov 15, 2013, at 5:49 PM, paul swed <paulsw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Gerald > The new roll of the thing called LORAN has nothing to do with location any > longer. But we all still call it LORAN. Old habit. Its new purpose if the > government funds it is PNT dissemination along with some ability to send > messages. In theory to backup GPS for timing. > UrsaNAV did pick up at least 1 facility in NJ and they might have purchased > another 1 or 2 but have no need to purchase all of the old sites. > They produced a ppt that showed as little as 1 site would cover the US and > two really would fill in the blanks. some place semi-central. > > For us time nuts even the single central site would be useful as long as > they stick to the current transmission format. Internationally they might > have to stick to this modulation method since Europe uses the frequency for > true eLORAN. I don't really know. But I am not complaining as the old > receivers have all of there green lock lights on at 1745. Guess no one went > for beer. Though they might shut down at 0000 utc I have seen them do that. > > The benefit of all of this is as an alternate frequency source that in > Boston has always been far superior to the 60 Khz WWVB transmission. In > fairness to WWVB if I had a magical processor as good as the LORAN > receivers/processors, maybe it would do far better then what I see on the > wwvb receivers I have. I just do not believe it would equal the LORAN > quality. > > Currently all of the receivers are saying the signal strength is the same > as last night. Though in actually listening to the signal I have a healthy > dose of man made noise today. > Regards > Paul > WB8TSL > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Gerald Chafee <gcha...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Does anyone know if they are using original antennas for chains that >> existed during the heyday of LORAN C? >> >> I remember driving past the tower at the Seneca Army Depot in Romulus, NY , >> and I was in awe of the size of the tower. I know the Coast Guard, then >> Homeland Security had control of the site. I am not sure if the tower is >> still there since some of the sites were decommissioned. >> >> I was wondering if they will be using the Master/Slave system, or do they >> have a new way to triangulate? >> >> I know the worry of GPS jamming has caused a lot of worry. I was wondering >> if cell sites that absolutely need super accurate timing will have LORAN as >> a backup timing source? I know if they lose GPS, they lose their ability to >> hand off to adjacent working cells (Island Cell Effect?). >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Bill Riches <bill.ric...@verizon.net >>> wrote: >> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> I stand corrected! Wildwood is up at 1615 now - 30/9! Beer call at >> 1700! >>> >>> My last comment was in regards to the last evening activity that was not >>> Wildwood. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Bill, WA2DVU >>> Cape May >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On >>> Behalf Of paul swed >>> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 1:49 PM >>> To: David McGaw; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement >>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran >>> >>> And by the way it is still on as of 2pm est. >>> Now the real test. They seem to go home for the weekend and beer time is >>> typically 5pm or so. >>> Will it still be on at 8pm? Curious minds want to know. >>> Regards >>> Paul >>> WB8TSL >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:47 PM, paul swed <paulsw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I can only go by the press release that was above and would guess its >>>> wildwood. >>>> Its clearly not in ma. That used to hit me with a heck of a signal >>>> 1000uv plus >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:22 AM, David McGaw >>> <n1...@alum.dartmouth.org>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Can you tell whether it is coming from Wildwood or another site? >>>>> >>>>> David N1HAC >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 11/14/13 9:02 PM, paul swed wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sounds pretty good not banging in here like the old chain did. >>>>>> austron 2100 says 38db >>>>>> srs700 says 47 rcvr gain and 25 db noise margin. >>>>>> hp3856b's says -53dbm or 500uv. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Paul >>>>>> WB8TSL >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM, J. Forster <j...@quikus.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> What's the signal strength like? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ======= >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh that is indeed interesting that they are moving forward. >>>>>>>> The GRI is 89700. >>>>>>>> SRS700 locked and looking good. >>>>>>>> Just brought the Austron 2100 and 2100F on line. >>>>>>>> The 2100 is tied to the local RB and the f is tied to the HP3801. >>>>>>>> The SRS700 looks at the RB. >>>>>>>> I pulled the Austron 2000 out of the rack several months ago. >>>>>>>> Needed the space. >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>>> WB8TSL. Near Boston. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Tom Van Baak <t...@leapsecond.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well lets see. Just warming up the srs700. >>>>>>>>>> UrsaNav must have received some support $ Regards Paul WB8TSL >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Paul, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> See below, via Adobe OCR on a JPG press release: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: "UrsaNav Press Contact" >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:31 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: UrsaNav Accepts eLoran Transmitter from Nautel >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> UrsaNav News Release November 14, 2013 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Two Companies - One Dream >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> UrsaNav Accepts Delivery of First Production Nautel NlAO eLoran >>>>>>>>> Transmitter >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bedford, Massachusetts, USA.- After extensive Final Acceptance >>>>>>>>> Testing at Nautel's Hackett's Cove, NS facility, UrsaNav has >>>>>>>>> accepted delivery of the first production NL40 Loran-C and >>>>>>>>> Enhanced Loran (eLoran) transmitter. >>>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>>> seventh generation Loran transmitter technology is the >>>>>>>>> culmination of over six years of collaborative development >>>>>>>>> between the two companies. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The transmitter successfully met or exceeded all of the >>>>>>>>> requirements of the u.s. Coast Guard "Specification of the >>>>>>>>> Transmitted Loran-C Signal". >>>>>>>>> Testing was conducted into a simulated antenna matching the >>>>>>>>> characteristics of a u.s. Coast Guard "standard" 625-foot >>>>>>>>> Top-Loaded Monopole. The NL-Series transmitters are capable of >>>>>>>>> transmitting Loran-C, eLoran, Chayka, and eChayka in any >>>>>>>>> combination at power levels exceeding one megawatt. >>>>>>>>> They >>>>>>>>> are qualified for today, and prepared for tomorrow. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> UrsaNav's President, Charles Schue, shown accepting the >>>>>>>>> transmitter from Nautel's President, Peter Conlon, commented: >>>>>>>>> "Resilient PNT begins with complementary technologies, layered >>>>>>>>> one upon the other in such a way that the user is ensured >>>>>>>>> improved continuity of operations over a sole-source solution. >>>>>>>>> eLoran is the terrestrial coprimary complement to GNSS, and our >>>>>>>>> technology makes eLoran the most economical, efficient, and >>>>>>>>> wide-area alternative when GNSS is not available." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> UrsaNav provides the world's most advanced solutions for Low >>>>>>>>> Frequency Alternative Positioning, Navigation, Timing, and Data, >>>>>>>>> including high-performance eLoran Receiver, Command and Control, >>>>>>>>> and Differential Loran technology. We are the exclusive, global, >>>>>>>>> reseller of Nautel's industry-leading, high-power, Low Frequency >>>>>>>>> transmitters for Loran/eLoran and Chayka/eChayka. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go >>>>>>>>> to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>>>>>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >>>>>>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>>>>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >>>>>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>>>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >>>>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow >>>>>> the instructions there. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >>>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow >>>>> the instructions there. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to >>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
