Might I suggest KiCAD? It is free and open source. It is developed
by CERN (https://home.cern/) and
a community of developers. There are no size limits and it does
everything that Eagle does. Available for
Windows and Linux. CERN uses it in-house and they do a lot of unusual
projects as you might imagine.
http://kicad-pcb.org/
I had used Eagle and liked it but have moved over to KiCAD after the
buy-out.
Pete.
On 1/20/2017 11:58 AM, Bob Camp wrote:
Hi
I completely agree that their spin at acquisition and the reality of what just
came out
is completely amazing. They said they would never do this and that. What they
are doing
is exactly what they said they would not do.
It’s a rare board that I do in < 4 layers. It’s also quite normal to have
designs above
160 CM^2. If I have 4 layers, there *will* be signals on all those layers. That
puts me
squarely in the $500 / yr subscription. A month ago that put me in a perpetual
license
that I paid < 1/2 that for.
It is not just that the cost has gone up. A number of license “categories” have
vanished.
The free version is still there, and just as useless for what I do. That’s
about the only
one that is rational at this point.
So yes, I’m at least as bothered by this as anybody else. What I would suggest
is to
take a deep breath, sit back, yell at them a bit (along with everybody else
that has
a license) and see what they do. It is abundantly clear that they have a major
disconnect
between this and what they have said. There is a lot of explaining for them to
do. Part of that
could easily be another couple license categories. I’m certainly in no hurry to
switch
packages.
Right now Fusion 360 is something I use a LOT more than I use Eagle. This week
(month .. year)
it is free for me to do that. Why is Fusion free to a basement guy and Eagle
pay?
That’s not at all clear. Fusion is buggy as can be. Eagle needs some updates.
Both
have a lot of development $$$ that they will be sucking up. Yes that has to get
paid
for. It’s not clear that a revenue stream based on hobbyists paying $500 a year
is rational. My guess is Autodesk will figure that out. They may abandon the
whole
basement thing, they may not …. we’ll see.
Bob
On Jan 19, 2017, at 10:52 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist <rich...@karlquist.com>
wrote:
Off topic, but probably a lot of disgrunted Eagle users on this list.
Its official, you will now have to pay $500 per year for a
professional license from Autodesk. The spin meistering of the
announcement would make George Orwell proud. I don't see any way they
can keep me from just using the license I currently own, at least
on the OS's it supports. (Parenthetically, like many users, I
am also digging in my heels in terms of staying at Windows 7).
Still, the question arises: are there any affordable alternatives?
Don't have to be entirely free. I am looking for any trends out
there as to what tool will attract a critical mass of users in
the future. There is strength in numbers.
Comments?
Rick N6RK
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