I think what he means is that the typical device sold today has four terminals not two. It looks like a crystal because it is inside a little silver can but has four lead wires Power, ground and "output" and the fourth lead might not be used. It is an "XO" not an "X".
But I argue that every one of these device has a crystal inside. So they still make crystals, just you don't see them On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Bryan _ <bpl...@outlook.com> wrote: > sorry, what do you mean by "complete oscillator" have outnumbered loose > crystals? > > > -=Bryan=- > > > ________________________________ > From: time-nuts <time-nuts-boun...@febo.com> on behalf of Richard (Rick) > Karlquist <rich...@karlquist.com> > Sent: March 12, 2017 4:38 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bye-Bye Crystals > > I got a job in 1975 to design Konel's first synthesized radio, which > was to obsolete their crystal controlled radios. That's over 40 years > ago. The other trend (not mentioned) is that since 20 years ago or > so, complete oscillator sales have vastly outnumbered sales of loose > crystals. > > Rick N6RK > > On 3/11/2017 8:51 PM, Bob Camp wrote: >> Hi >> >> International’s main business was re-channeling non-synthesized radios and >> replacing >> broken crystals in various pieces of com gear. It’s been a *lot* of years >> since the last of the >> non-synthesized radios came out. The business probably has been dropping off >> pretty steadily >> for many years … >> >> Bob >> >>> On Mar 11, 2017, at 10:39 PM, jimlux <jim...@earthlink.net> wrote: >>> >>> On 3/11/17 4:30 PM, Scott McGrath wrote: >>>> From the tone of the letter it sounds like the bank cancelled line of >>>> credit, >>> >>> Or, he wants to retire and nobody wants to carry it on. His dad started it >>> in 1950, the son picked it up in 1970. It's 47 years later. >>> >>>> >>>> Which is stupid given that much of their line is military which is getting >>>> a huge boost in spending >>> >>> Plenty of other crystal and oscillator manufacturers around. >>> >>> There's also a change in what kinds of crystals are needed. I suspect >>> most things being built and designed today use the crystal as a "master >>> oscillator" that is used to drive some sort of synthesis chain. The need >>> for "I have to have a 12.345,324 Hz crystal" is going away. >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> On Mar 11, 2017, at 4:56 PM, Bryan _ <bpl...@outlook.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Disappearing or manufacturing just moving overseas?. 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