Hi > On Mar 14, 2017, at 3:19 AM, Chris Albertson <albertson.ch...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I think what he means is that the typical device sold today has four > terminals not two. It looks like a crystal because it is inside a > little silver can but has four lead wires Power, ground and "output" > and the fourth lead might not be used. It is an "XO" not an "X". > > But I argue that every one of these device has a crystal inside. So > they still make crystals, just you don't see them
These days, they may well have a MEMS resonator in them. No quartz and no crystal. Good luck on the close in noise if that’s what they are doing …. Bob > > On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Bryan _ <bpl...@outlook.com> wrote: >> sorry, what do you mean by "complete oscillator" have outnumbered loose >> crystals? >> >> >> -=Bryan=- >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: time-nuts <time-nuts-boun...@febo.com> on behalf of Richard (Rick) >> Karlquist <rich...@karlquist.com> >> Sent: March 12, 2017 4:38 PM >> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bye-Bye Crystals >> >> I got a job in 1975 to design Konel's first synthesized radio, which >> was to obsolete their crystal controlled radios. That's over 40 years >> ago. The other trend (not mentioned) is that since 20 years ago or >> so, complete oscillator sales have vastly outnumbered sales of loose >> crystals. >> >> Rick N6RK >> >> On 3/11/2017 8:51 PM, Bob Camp wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> International’s main business was re-channeling non-synthesized radios and >>> replacing >>> broken crystals in various pieces of com gear. It’s been a *lot* of years >>> since the last of the >>> non-synthesized radios came out. The business probably has been dropping >>> off pretty steadily >>> for many years … >>> >>> Bob >>> >>>> On Mar 11, 2017, at 10:39 PM, jimlux <jim...@earthlink.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 3/11/17 4:30 PM, Scott McGrath wrote: >>>>> From the tone of the letter it sounds like the bank cancelled line of >>>>> credit, >>>> >>>> Or, he wants to retire and nobody wants to carry it on. His dad started >>>> it in 1950, the son picked it up in 1970. It's 47 years later. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Which is stupid given that much of their line is military which is >>>>> getting a huge boost in spending >>>> >>>> Plenty of other crystal and oscillator manufacturers around. >>>> >>>> There's also a change in what kinds of crystals are needed. I suspect >>>> most things being built and designed today use the crystal as a "master >>>> oscillator" that is used to drive some sort of synthesis chain. The need >>>> for "I have to have a 12.345,324 Hz crystal" is going away. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 11, 2017, at 4:56 PM, Bryan _ <bpl...@outlook.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Disappearing or manufacturing just moving overseas?. Video at the bottom >>>>>> is interesting, classic. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://hackaday.com/2017/03/11/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-crystals/ >> [https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVF.LElrlkkbByR3K%2f6qfaeHjg&pid=Api]<http://hackaday.com/2017/03/11/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-crystals/> >> >> So Long, and Thanks for all the >> Crystals<http://hackaday.com/2017/03/11/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-the-crystals/> >> hackaday.com >> There was a time when anyone involved with radio transmitting -- ham >> operators, CB'ers, scanner enthusiasts, or remote control model fans -- had >> a collection of ... >> >> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -=Bryan=- >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>>>>> To unsubscribe, go to >>>>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> time-nuts Info Page - American Febo >> Enterprises<https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts> >> www.febo.com >> time-nuts is a low volume, high SNR list for the discussion of precise time >> and frequency measurement and related topics. 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