Hi All,

I will second Bob's comment on choosing a program with PCB - Schematic
integration.  I can heartily recommend Kicad.  I own Altium designer, but
work remotely for an American firm from Germany.  The US office uses PADs.
We have finally agreed on projects going forward to both use Kicad.  While
Altium designer is more mature, and a little smoother to use, all of the
programs have quirks, and require that you become familiar with them.  So
far I am not seeing any limitations in Kicad that would prevent getting
good boards made.  And, many  prototype oriented houses accept Kicad PCB
files directly (for example EUROCIRCUITS) , which saves you from generating
Gerbers and drill files.

And Kicad just keeps getting better.

-- mike



On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 4:30 PM Bob kb8tq <kb...@n1k.org> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I would toss in:
>
> If you are starting from scratch, pick a program that allows you to easily
> enter schematics as well as PCB layouts. Take the time to learn both sides
> of the program. That will give you an automated check between the schematic
> and the layout….. It also gives you a document to go back to / hand to
> others
> to show what the board was intended to do.
>
> Bob
>
> > On May 14, 2020, at 5:51 AM, ew via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Mark for reminding me, spend 3 hours this morning reviewing
> designs to be released. Found a couple of problems. Also went back to look
> at the OCXO boards I released in 2018, found a problem on the board with no
> Amp, the SMA is not grounded. Easy to fix, but if some one wants new Gerber
> will publish it.Always try to have a third party check my designs. To many
> designs 30 this year.
> > Bert Kehren
> > In a message dated 5/13/2020 10:18:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> hol...@hotmail.com writes:
> >
> > One thing that I recommend is that after completing the layout is to:1)
> step back and wait a few days2) enjoy a few adult beverages while waiting3)
> go back a re-check everything4) send it out to the board house
> > You'd be surprised how often simple, subtle, not so subtle
> glitches/tweaks/improvements show up after a pause in the process.
> > ---------------
> >> Once you get going, a board is a weekend project. Indeed, a simple
> board might be anevening project. There’s not a lot involved.
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