Hi

Since Stephen asked why I included a paper that excluded stock market 
predictions from its analysis, here's the chain that led (erroneously) to my 
citing the Grove meta-analysis.

1. I remember reading a newspaper article some time ago about investment firms 
that were moving to actuarial predictions because they were outperforming 
analysts' judgments.

2. When the stock market came up on TIPs, I googled to see if I could recover 
something along the lines of stock market and actuarial versus clinical 
prediction.  The closest thing that I found relatively quickly was the Grove 
paper.  Its summary table did include a line for Financial and I merrily sent 
it on its way.  Presumably, financial here meant something like personal 
financial decisions rather than the stock market.

My apologies for shooting from the hip.  I've done a bit more searching now and 
still nothing right on point that I know.  Although the literature on 
prediction, Meehl, and the like does include provocative papers, including 
older ones, with titles like:

Cowles, Alfred, "Can stock market forecasters forecast?" Econometrica, 1 
(1933): 309- 324.

I don't have access to the paper, but the following appears to demonstrate that 
people can actually perform quite well if they are ignorant enough of the stock 
market to benefit from a crude recognition heuristic; that is, invest in stocks 
with name recognition, a heuristic not readily available to experts. But the 
recognition effect failed to replicate in one subsequent paper by Patric & 
Rakow.

Borges, B., Goldstein, D. G., Ortmann, A., & Gigerenzer, G. (1999). Can 
ignorance beat the stock market? In G. Gigerenzer, P. M. Todd, & the ABC 
Research Group, Simple heuristics that make us smart (pp. 59-72). New York: 
Oxford University Press.

No more time for this now, but perhaps later.

Take care
Jim


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>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 24-Nov-08 8:46 PM >>>
On 24 Nov 2008 at 2:15, Jim Clark wrote:

> I'm not too certain what Stephen would include under "technical
> analysis", but it does appear that the classic superiority of
> actuarial over clinical prediction applies to the stock market as well
> as numerous other domains.  See: 
> 
> http://www.psych.umn.edu/faculty/grove/096clinicalversusmechanicalprediction.pdf
>  
>

I guess I'd better clear this up. I said "so-called "technical analysis"" 
which was meant to indicate that I was referring specifically to the 
loopy system of divination in the stock market based solely on the prior  
rise and fall of the stock. If someone was unfamiliar with this system, 
they might think I was referring to the actuarian approach, but I wasn't. 
Paul Bernhardt had it exactly right in his post (helpful urls too).  What 
is truly scary is how many people in the investment business actually 
believe this stuff. No wonder we're in the trouble we're in.

I also think the actuarian approach (fundamental analysis?) to stock 
prediction is doomed (see: theory of the efficient market) but at least 
it's an honest attempt. Yet I'm puzzled by Jim's citing the Grove et al 
(2000) study in support of its use for predicting the stock market. In 
their methods, they say

"Only studies within the realm of psychology and medicine were included. 
Thus, we excluded attempts to predict nonhuman outcomes (e.g., horse 
races, weather, stock market prices)".

Stephen

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