So because I don’t know IF or HOW MANY responses I MIGHT get from any 
particular instagram post, I’m on a VI schedule - correct?


Michael

Michael A. Britt, Ph.D.
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> On Jul 13, 2015, at 12:22 PM, Paul Brandon <pkbra...@hickorytech.net> wrote:
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> Good points!
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> On Jul 13, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Ken Steele <steel...@appstate.edu 
> <mailto:steel...@appstate.edu>> wrote:
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>> Hi Michael:
>> 
>> First, notice that you have switched to a new response.  You are now posting 
>> text or pictures and you hope that your posts will produce more emails or 
>> likes or whatever.
>> 
>> The previous analysis still applies.  Assume that you post 4 pictures to 
>> Instagram and you get one response.  The question is what happens when you 
>> post 8 pictures in about the same amount of time.  If 8 pictures produce two 
>> responses then you are talking about a VR type of schedule.  If posting 8 
>> pictures and then 16 pictures still produce only one response then you are 
>> dealing with a VI schedule.
>> 
>> One point worth mentioning is that a common reason why students have 
>> problems doing such analyses is that they switch responses in the middle of 
>> an analysis.  I have students do a lot of mother-daughter and father-son 
>> interactions from the perspective of both actors to help them learn to 
>> resist changing the response in the middle of an analysis.
>> Ken
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>> On 7/13/2015 8:41 AM, Michael Britt wrote:
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>>> Good explanation Ken.  So checking email (or Instagram, etc.) appears to be 
>>> a VI kind of thing - an uncertain amount of time passes and new email (a 
>>> reinforcer) arrives.  But, just for the fun of it, let me add in a wrinkle: 
>>> take Instagram: I don’t necessarily have to do anything - except for 
>>> initially following people when I sign up - but if I post a picture on 
>>> Instagram (or write a post on TIPS I suppose) then the chances of me 
>>> getting a response are increased. So that involves a behavior (posting a 
>>> text or an image).  Still VI?
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> Michael A. Britt, Ph.D.
>>> mich...@thepsychfiles.com <mailto:mich...@thepsychfiles.com>
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>>>> On Jul 7, 2015, at 8:09 AM, Kenneth Steele <steel...@appstate.edu 
>>>> <mailto:steel...@appstate.edu>> wrote:
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>>>> There is an easy trick to distinguish between VI and VR schedules.  First, 
>>>> imagine a FR 25 schedule.  If you double your response rate then you will 
>>>> double your reinforcement rate.  The same rule applies to a VR 25 
>>>> schedule.  On the other hand, imagine a FI 60 sec schedule.  What happens 
>>>> if you double your response rate?  The reinforcement rate will remain 
>>>> about constant because the 60-sec rule must be satisfied for either case.
>>>> 
>>>> The easy way to distinguish between a VI and a VR reinforcement schedule 
>>>> is to imagine the effect of doubling your response rate.  If the 
>>>> reinforcement rate doubles then you are dealing with a VR schedule.  If 
>>>> the reinforcement rate remains about constant then you are dealing with a 
>>>> VI schedule.
>>>> 
>>>> Applying that rule to slot machines and email gives you the following.  
>>>> Doubling the rate at which you enter coins into a slot machine will double 
>>>> the rate at which you receive the consequence, hence a VR schedule.  
>>>> Doubling the rate at which you check your email will not double the number 
>>>> of emails that you receive, hence a VI schedule.
>>>> 
>>>> Ken
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>>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Beth Benoit <beth.ben...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:beth.ben...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>>> I have a video of an interview of Skinner talking about variable ratio 
>>>> schedules as being well exemplified by slot machines.  Wouldn't checking 
>>>> for messages be the same thing?  Sometimes you get one, sometimes you 
>>>> don't.  But not getting one doesn't make you less likely to check.  And 
>>>> sometimes getting one makes you more likely to check.
>>>> 
>>>> Beth Benoit
>>>> Plymouth State University
>>>> Plymouth, New Hampshire
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>>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Michael Britt <mich...@thepsychfiles.com 
>>>> <mailto:mich...@thepsychfiles.com>> wrote:
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>>>> Parents know how hard it can be for kids to stay away from their social 
>>>> media connections - be it facebook, instagram or Snapchat.  As soon as my 
>>>> 15-year old gets out of swim practice it’s the first thing he does.  After 
>>>> all, there might be a message for him.  This would be variable interval 
>>>> reinforcement if I’m correct - he doesn’t have to actually do anything but 
>>>> a new message (reinforcer) might have arrived.
>>>> 
>>>> It seems pretty darn powerful, which seems weird because I’ve always 
>>>> thought of variable interval reinforcers as weak.  Thoughts?
>>>>    
>>>> Michael
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