Hi Rich,

I’m not sure if I’m following the question, but what was meant was that these 
ciphers are generally NOT used for browser access.  Machine to machine 
communication usually does not involve a browser.  Apologies if I’ve 
misunderstood the question.

Thanks and Best Regards,

--Jack

From: TLS [mailto:tls-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Salz, Rich
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Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [TLS] integrity only ciphersuites


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Now I think I am as confused as Stephen and others.

One justification was “small footprint.”  But now you’re saying that for 
debugging encryption (standard?) ciphers are used for browser access?

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