> The only thing I can think of is to request both of the above
 > tracebacks, if you still have them.
 >
 > Tim

 OK, I've cleaned out all the message in the queue. I used the method
 described in Dave Sill's book: "The qmail Handbook".

 Then I created a non tmda user with domain "experimental.dev" that is
 resolvable on my local development box. (test.dev was not resolvable, only
a
 virtual domain setup in vpopmail. Not sure that it should matter, but...
 can't hurt at this point). So I have a tmda user setup as
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] and a non tmda as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Then I recreated the previous test.

 Sent email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Results of initial send:

 2003-12-01 10:17:33.757446500 new msg 1520803
 2003-12-01 10:17:33.757450500 info msg 1520803: bytes 739 from
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 17982 uid 502
 2003-12-01 10:17:33.769541500 starting delivery 1: msg 1520803 to local
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2003-12-01 10:17:33.769545500 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
 2003-12-01 10:17:34.091942500 new msg 1520808
 2003-12-01 10:17:34.091946500 info msg 1520808: bytes 2389 from <> qp 17993
 uid 89
 2003-12-01 10:17:34.101000500 starting delivery 2: msg 1520808 to local
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2003-12-01 10:17:34.101005500 status: local 2/10 remote 0/20
 2003-12-01 10:17:34.101006500 delivery 1: success: did_0+0+1/
 2003-12-01 10:17:34.101007500 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
 2003-12-01 10:17:34.101007500 end msg 1520803
 2003-12-01 10:17:34.140344500 delivery 2: success: did_0+0+1/
 2003-12-01 10:17:34.140348500 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
 2003-12-01 10:17:34.140349500 end msg 1520808

 Reply to confirmation:

 2003-12-01 10:23:52.957119500 new msg 1520803
 2003-12-01 10:23:52.957122500 info msg 1520803: bytes 1592 from
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 20218 uid 502
 2003-12-01 10:23:52.969569500 starting delivery 3: msg 1520803 to local
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2003-12-01 10:23:52.969572500 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
 2003-12-01 10:23:53.270006500 new msg 1520808
 2003-12-01 10:23:53.270010500 info msg 1520808: bytes 2887 from <> qp 20229
 uid 89
 2003-12-01 10:23:53.313846500 starting delivery 4: msg 1520808 to local
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2003-12-01 10:23:53.313851500 status: local 2/10 remote 0/20
 2003-12-01 10:23:53.334806500 delivery 4: success: did_0+0+1/
 2003-12-01 10:23:53.334808500 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
 2003-12-01 10:23:53.334809500 end msg 1520808
 2003-12-01 10:23:53.335097500 new msg 1520813
 2003-12-01 10:23:53.335099500 info msg 1520813: bytes 956 from
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 20231 uid 89
 2003-12-01 10:23:53.346945500 starting delivery 5: msg 1520813 to local
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2003-12-01 10:23:53.346950500 status: local 2/10 remote 0/20
 2003-12-01 10:23:53.346951500 delivery 3: success: did_0+0+1/
 2003-12-01 10:23:53.346952500 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
 2003-12-01 10:23:53.346953500 end msg 1520803
 2003-12-01 10:23:53.562126500 delivery 5: deferral:

See_/home/vpopmail/domains/experimental.dev/TMDA_DELIVERY_FAILURE_for_traceb
ack/
 2003-12-01 10:23:53.562132500 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20

 Log error in traceback:

 Uncaught Python 2.2.2 Exception (Mon Dec  1 10:30:34 2003):
 -----------------------------------------------------------
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/local/tmda/bin/tmda-filter", line 53, in ?
     execfile(os.path.join(execdir, 'tmda-rfilter'))
   File "/usr/local/tmda/bin/tmda-rfilter", line 175, in ?
     from TMDA import Defaults
   File "./TMDA/Defaults.py", line 1534, in ?
 ConfigError: Can't find key file:
 /home/vpopmail/domains/experimental.dev/.tmda/crypt_key
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/local/tmda/bin/tmda-filter", line 69, in ?
     raise NameError, 'LOGFILE_DEBUG is not defined'
 NameError: LOGFILE_DEBUG is not defined


 Send another message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 2003-12-01 10:32:49.947765500 new msg 1520803
 2003-12-01 10:32:49.947768500 info msg 1520803: bytes 738 from
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 23425 uid 502
 2003-12-01 10:32:49.977855500 starting delivery 8: msg 1520803 to local
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 2003-12-01 10:32:49.977860500 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
 2003-12-01 10:32:50.327075500 delivery 8: deferral:

See_/home/vpopmail/domains/experimental.dev/TMDA_DELIVERY_FAILURE_for_traceb
ack/
 2003-12-01 10:32:50.327081500 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20

 And traceback log error:

 Uncaught Python 2.2.2 Exception (Mon Dec  1 10:32:50 2003):
 -----------------------------------------------------------
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/local/tmda/bin/tmda-filter", line 53, in ?
     execfile(os.path.join(execdir, 'tmda-rfilter'))
   File "/usr/local/tmda/bin/tmda-rfilter", line 175, in ?
     from TMDA import Defaults
   File "./TMDA/Defaults.py", line 1534, in ?
 ConfigError: Can't find key file:
 /home/vpopmail/domains/experimental.dev/.tmda/crypt_key
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/local/tmda/bin/tmda-filter", line 69, in ?
     raise NameError, 'LOGFILE_DEBUG is not defined'
 NameError: LOGFILE_DEBUG is not defined

 Let me know if I can get you any other information.

 ron


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