On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:25:33 -0600
Jim Ramsay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Rick Mann wrote:
> 
> > However, I'm not seeing mail outgoing from TMDA (i.e. confirmation 
> > requests) getting properly tagged yet. They still show 
> > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", which is the value of my BOUNCE_ENV_SENDER 
> > variable.
> 
> Your outgoing filter only affects mail going out because of tmda-ofmipd 
> or tmda-sendmail.  BOUNCE_ENV_SENDER is used for TMDA-generated emails 
> only.  Thus [EMAIL PROTECTED] should be the right envelope for your 
> confirmation requests.  These are different things for different 
> purposes.  You want the outgoing mail you personally send to have a 
> dated envelope so that you can receive bounces properly.  You want the 
> outgoing mail TMDA sends to have a special envelope so that you can 
> discard these, or maybe save them if you love reading bounce notices.
> 
> I drop all mail incoming to my BOUNCE_ENV_ADDRESS 

When you say BOUNCE_ENV_ADDRESS in the last paragraph, do you mean BOUNCE_ENV_SENDER. 
I can't find BOUNCE_ENV_ADDRESS in the TMDA configuration variables page. 

> as it is only ever 
> generated if the original incoming mail used a bad envelope sender 
> (implying spam), in which case I don't want to see either the original 
> message or the bounce notice.

I have BOUNCE_ENV_SENDER = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

cat /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-nobody
#

cat ~/.qmail-nobody 
#

cat ~/.qmail-o2w-nobody
#

I still get messages like

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at open2web.com.
I tried to deliver a bounce message to this address, but the bounce bounced!

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
65.54.253.230 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable
Giving up on 65.54.253.230.

--- Below this line is the original bounce.

Return-Path: <>
Received: (qmail 418 invoked for bounce); 22 Dec 2003 22:31:55 -0000
Date: 22 Dec 2003 22:31:55 -0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: failure notice

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at open2web.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: (qmail 392 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2003 22:31:54 -0000
Received: from ool-18bb9e4d.dyn.optonline.net (24.187.158.77)
  by open2web.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2003 22:31:54 -0000
Received: from [174.110.212.202] by ool-18bb9e4d.dyn.optonline.net with ESMTP id 
450A5BD7BA0; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:25:05 -0600
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "YP Creative Editor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "YP Creative Editor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Your Yellow Pages listing Ref:YP/2002/2003/www/301101
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 03 16:25:05 GMT
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
        boundary="A.2D87BED__"
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal


--A.2D87BED__
Content-Type: text/html;
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


...snip...

I think this constitutes a bounce notice. I'm still getting these on a daily basis. Is 
this because BOUNCE_ENV_ADDRESS isn't set up?

Mark


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