Yes my knees are bone on bone. And yes huge difference in pain level. Prior to the water therapy, my doc said it was time for 2 walking sticks that you wear on your arms. My legs were that bad. Ok, I have never heard of rooster's comb - so please tell me what that is. My doc did not want to inject my knees at all due to the risk of infection (I'm on immunosuppressants) Although when this first started and my right knee was swollen like a cantelope (for real) he did inject it. That did nothing. well, except for the first time in my life, I actually let out a scream when he tried to get that needle in my hugely swollen knee. I spent about 3 months sitting up in bed, icing my knees and literally getting up only when absolutely necessary! It was awful. But thankfully so much better now
Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Janice Nichols<mailto:jan...@centurytel.net> To: L T CHERPESKI<mailto:cherp...@msn.com> ; lbieh...@earthlink.net<mailto:lbieh...@earthlink.net> ; 'kimr1999'<mailto:kimr1...@bellsouth.net> ; tmic-list@eskimo.com<mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com> ; 'Grace M.'<mailto:grace...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Yooo...hooo....TMIC Members, where are you? My pain med is Vicodin. It does help, but can not take much because of nausua. When it gets a little warmer, I think I want to start back into water therapy. Did that before I got TM. When you say you can tell a big difference after 3 months of water therapy, do you mean big difference in pain? Are your knees bone on bone? We are injecting rooster's comb into my knee, but so far 3 times isn't doing it. (That is the norm). He may have to do 5 times. I am not bothered with knee pain when in bed, just when I get out of bed and try walking. At night I have to use a walker. Gunny, you are probably reading this. Would you give me the muscles that need building up in the water? I could use the help. Thanks, Janice From: L T CHERPESKI<mailto:cherp...@msn.com> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:10 PM To: lbieh...@earthlink.net<mailto:lbieh...@earthlink.net> ; 'kimr1999'<mailto:kimr1...@bellsouth.net> ; tmic-list@eskimo.com<mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com> ; 'Grace M.'<mailto:grace...@gmail.com> ; Janice Nichols<mailto:jan...@centurytel.net> Subject: Re: [TMIC] Yooo...hooo....TMIC Members, where are you? Janice, glad to hear your shots helped with the nerve pain. Regarding the knee - what pain meds are you on? I was given Darvacet which didn't even begin to touch the pain. Already have Vicodin on hand, but that doesn't work either. So don't take anything. Just ice it. However, I am in aqua therapy actually because of my knees. I cannot have surgery of any kind. I'm building my muscles up to help take some of the pressure off the knees. It's been 3+ months now, and I can really tell a big difference. Gunny was kind enough to give me a lot of great info on what muscles need to be built up and how to accomplish this in the water. (thanks again, Gunny : ) I'm so amazed by what I can do in the water that I canNOT do on land! About the pain - I was getting 4 hours of sleep at the most because of pain - thought I was going to lose my mind, so doc put me on Ambien CR - well, that's a hit and miss thing. Instead of waking up after 4 hrs, I get to sleep maybe 5 hrs. It's gone on for so long now, I think I just can't break the cycle. I'll chime in with the knee replacement thing after I see what others have to say...... Linda Hey, thanks for keeping us colorful!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Janice Nichols<mailto:jan...@centurytel.net> To: lbieh...@earthlink.net<mailto:lbieh...@earthlink.net> ; 'kimr1999'<mailto:kimr1...@bellsouth.net> ; 'L T CHERPESKI'<mailto:cherp...@msn.com> ; tmic-list@eskimo.com<mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com> ; 'Grace M.'<mailto:grace...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Yooo...hooo....TMIC Members, where are you? Actually, my nerve pain has been okay since my last shots(for back and legs). Shots have never lasted this long. But, I have an arthritic knee that one doc says needs to be replaced, but my pain management doc is trying to keep that from happening. I have knee pain 24/7, but is better with pain meds, just don't like to take much. Doc's think that after TM hit and I started walking again, my gait changed to accommodate nerve pain and balance and it got the knee in bad shape. If it isn't one thing, it will be another . Have any of you had a knee replaced since you have had TM? Janice From: Lori Biehler<mailto:lbieh...@earthlink.net> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:35 PM To: 'kimr1999'<mailto:kimr1...@bellsouth.net> ; 'L T CHERPESKI'<mailto:cherp...@msn.com> ; tmic-list@eskimo.com<mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com> ; 'Grace M.'<mailto:grace...@gmail.com> ; 'Janice Nichols'<mailto:jan...@centurytel.net> Subject: RE: [TMIC] Yooo...hooo....TMIC Members, where are you? Yup, yet that being said, I would rather hurt in the cold snow, than hurt in the freezing rain! For some reason, no clue why, it hurts more in the cold, cold rain than in the snow, even though it is colder when it snows! This winter is much better for me than last winter. From: kimr1999 [mailto:kimr1...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:28 PM To: L T CHERPESKI; tmic-list@eskimo.com<mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com>; Grace M.; Janice Nichols Subject: Re: [TMIC] Yooo...hooo....TMIC Members, where are you? well since were on tht cold... this winter has been the worst pain I have had to date. Anone else? --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Janice Nichols <jan...@centurytel.net<mailto:jan...@centurytel.net>> wrote: From: Janice Nichols <jan...@centurytel.net> Subject: Re: [TMIC] Yooo...hooo....TMIC Members, where are you? To: "L T CHERPESKI" <cherp...@msn.com>, tmic-list@eskimo.com, "Grace M." <grace...@gmail.com> Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 8:25 PM I am here and you are right, it is sooooo quiet. I sent Frank a couple of pie recipes that we really like. I think he needs to try them all out before he puts them in his book. What subject does anyone want to talk or comment about? Janice PS I am trying to add color to our lives! From: L T CHERPESKI<http://us.mc1804.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cherp...@msn.com> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:36 PM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com<http://us.mc1804.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tmic-l...@eskimo.com> ; Grace M.<http://us.mc1804.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=grace...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TMIC] Yooo...hooo....TMIC Members, where are you? Hi Grace, I'm here - but you're right - extremely quiet. TOO quiet...... And Frank - if you were asking for anything except pie recipes, I could help you out. I learned many moons ago that I am not capable of making a good pie!! I'm sure you'll get some good replies when everyone wakes up. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Grace M.<http://us.mc1804.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=grace...@gmail.com> To: tmic-list@eskimo.com<http://us.mc1804.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tmic-l...@eskimo.com> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 5:02 PM Subject: [TMIC] Yooo...hooo....TMIC Members, where are you? Where is everyone? The last msg that I got was from Frank, looking for pie recipes...... Anyone out there?
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