with all due respect, THIS is not the forum for this email. . . I need information on TM and look forward to it.
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:34 AM, john snodgrass <jcs...@yahoo.com> wrote: > sad part is many many many dont know and dont care these days > > --- On *Thu, 6/2/11, celr...@aol.com <celr...@aol.com>* wrote: > > > From: celr...@aol.com <celr...@aol.com> > Subject: [TMIC] Fwd: Barbara Walters comments on Jane Fonda OT > To: TMIC-LIST@eskimo.com > Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 12:09 AM > > > > > ------------------------------ > From: lgvbabyg...@aol.com > BCC: celr...@aol.com > Sent: 6/1/2011 11:49:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time > Subj: Barbara Walters comments on Jane Fonda > > > > > > > > > > > comments on Jane Fonda > * > * > > > > > > Please take time to at least read this & the first hand accounts, than > let your heart do what you will. > > > *She can lead her present life the way she wants and perhaps SHE can > forget the past, but we DO NOT have to stand by without comment to see that > she is "honored" as a "Woman of the Century". * > > > > *Never Forgive A Traitor > > For those of you too young to remember Hanoi Jane is a bad person and did > some terrible things during the Vietnam war. Things that can not be > forgiven!!!! > > For those who served and/or died. . . > > NEVER FORGIVE A TRAITOR. SHE REALLY WAS A TRAITOR!! > > and now OBAMA wants to honor her......!!!! > > In Memory of LT. C.Thomsen Wieland who spent 100 days at the Hanoi Hilton > > IF YOU NEVER FORWARDED ANYTHING IN YOUR LIFE FORWARD THIS SO THAT EVERYONE > WILL KNOW!!!!!! > > She really is a traitor. > > A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA > > This is for all the kids born in the 70's and after who do not remember, > and > didn't have to bear the burden that our fathers, mothers and older brothers > and sisters had to bear.. > > Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the '100 Women of the Century.' > > > > BARBRA WALTERS WRITES: > > > Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never > known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific > men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam > > > The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry > Driscoll, a River Rat. > > In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho > Lo Prison the ' Hanoi Hilton.' > > Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in > clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American 'Peace > Activist' the 'lenient and humane treatment' he'd received. > > > He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away. During the > subsequent beating, he fell forward on to the camp Commandant 's feet, > which > sent that officer berserk. > > In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which > permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied > application of a wooden baton. > > >From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 > years in the ' Hanoi Hilton',,, the first three of which his family only > knew > he was 'missing in action'. His wife lived on faith that he was still > alive. > His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and clothed routine in preparation > for a 'peace delegation' visit. > > They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that > they were alive and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of > paper, > with his Social Security Number on it , in the palm of his hand. > > > When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking > each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: 'Aren't you > sorry you bombed babies?' and 'Are you grateful for the humane treatment > from your benevolent captors?' Believing this HAD to be an act, they each > palmed her their sliver of paper. > > She took them all without missing a beat.. At the end of the line and once > the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she > turned > to the officer in charge and handed him all the little pieces of paper.. > > Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost > number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her > actions > that day. > > > I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam , and was captured > by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held > prisoner for over 5 years. > > I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in Cambodia ; > and one year in a 'black box' in Hanoi . My North Vietnamese captors > deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a > leprosarium in Banme Thuot , South Vietnam , whom I buried in the jungle > near > the Cambodian border. At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs. (My normal > weight is 170 lbs) > > We were Jane Fonda's 'war criminals....' > > When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi , I was asked by the camp communist political > officer if I would be willing to meet with her.. > > I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real treatment we POWs > received... and how different it was from the treatment purported by the > North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as 'humane and lenient.' > > > Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my > arms outstretched with a large steel weight placed on my hands, and beaten > with a bamboo cane. > > I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released. I > asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She never did answer > me. > > These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored > as part of '100 Years of Great Women.' Lest we forget....' 100 Years of > Great Women' should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with > the > blood of so many patriots. > > There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's > participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to > forward to as many people as you possibly can.. It will eventually end up > on > her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget. > > RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, > USAF 716 Maintenance Squadron, > Chief of Maintenance DSN: 875-6431 COMM: 883-6343 > > > > PLEASE HELP BY SENDING THIS TO EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. > > IF ENOUGH PEOPLE SEE THIS MAYBE HER STATUS WILL CHANGE* > > > > > -- Susan L. Ebling