I understand your aggravation however my neuro told me to just go when you have to go. one would think as many pills as are out there something could regulate
--- On Thu, 6/2/11, Susan Ebling <slebl...@gmail.com> wrote: From: Susan Ebling <slebl...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re:OT Fwd: Barbara Walters comments on Jane Fonda OT To: "Mary Anne Egan" <mae...@thestettlergroup.com> Cc: "Dalton Garis" <malugss...@gmail.com>, "john snodgrass" <jcs...@yahoo.com>, "transverse myelitis" <tmic-list@eskimo.com> Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 4:52 PM My apologies to all. I am cranky today (and should NEVER call anybody a jackass). I really did not know what OT meant. If anybody has any information on spastic bladders, I would love to have some information. (although, I fear I have just alienated my peers). I am SO tired of having to go to the bathroom every 10 minutes. thanks and apologies, Susan On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mary Anne Egan <mae...@thestettlergroup.com> wrote: you know I thin not everyone uses this site the same way. I have been reading the posts for years and there is a group of people who always email OT comments and yes there should be a sensitivity to the fact that some of us/them are isolated but can I ask why can't the OT emails go directly to the individuals who want to have a political chat or discussion off topic. I can understand both sides, but I pose the question. It seems like the sensitivity/forgiveness is asked only on one side of this issue. Mary Anne On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Dalton Garis <malugss...@gmail.com> wrote: Can we just lighten up here a little? We're all suffering, we are all isolated by our disease and our disabilities, some are housebound, while a lucky few of us can still go out. For some, this group is about all there is. So, if someone strays from the straight and narrow, because of being hard up for some other level of exchange, we should try to be a little more forgiving. Dalton From: Susan Ebling <slebl...@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 14:21:58 -0500 To: Dalton Garis <malugss...@gmail.com> Cc: john snodgrass <jcs...@yahoo.com>, transverse myelitis <tmic-list@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re:OT Fwd: Barbara Walters comments on Jane Fonda OT I guess that relative 'new comers' to this group never got the "OT" message. I'm sorry to have interrupted this pertinent email exchange. Lord knows, there are not enough topics related to TM to discuss. Jackass. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Dalton Garis <malugss...@gmail.com> wrote: It said "OT" on it, right? So, what's the problem? Dalton H. Garis Associate Professor of Economics And Petroleum Market Behavior The Petroleum Institute P.O. Box 2533, Umm al Nar Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates Office: +971-02-607-5070/5297 Mobile: +971-50-668-5760 From: Susan Ebling <slebl...@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 09:43:09 -0500 To: john snodgrass <jcs...@yahoo.com> Cc: transverse myelitis <tmic-list@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [TMIC] Re:OT Fwd: Barbara Walters comments on Jane Fonda OT Resent-From: <tmic-list@eskimo.com> Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 07:44:04 -0700 with all due respect, THIS is not the forum for this email. . . I need information on TM and look forward to it. On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 9:34 AM, john snodgrass <jcs...@yahoo.com> wrote: sad part is many many many dont know and dont care these days --- On Thu, 6/2/11, celr...@aol.com <celr...@aol.com> wrote: From: celr...@aol.com <celr...@aol.com> Subject: [TMIC] Fwd: Barbara Walters comments on Jane Fonda OT To: TMIC-LIST@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 12:09 AM From: lgvbabyg...@aol.com BCC: celr...@aol.com Sent: 6/1/2011 11:49:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time Subj: Barbara Walters comments on Jane Fonda comments on Jane Fonda Please take time to at least read this & the first hand accounts, than let your heart do what you will. She can lead her present life the way she wants and perhaps SHE can forget the past, but we DO NOT have to stand by without comment to see that she is "honored" as a "Woman of the Century". Never Forgive A Traitor For those of you too young to remember Hanoi Jane is a bad person and did some terrible things during the Vietnam war. Things that can not be forgiven!!!! For those who served and/or died. . . NEVER FORGIVE A TRAITOR. SHE REALLY WAS A TRAITOR!! and now OBAMA wants to honor her......!!!! In Memory of LT. C.Thomsen Wieland who spent 100 days at the Hanoi Hilton IF YOU NEVER FORWARDED ANYTHING IN YOUR LIFE FORWARD THIS SO THAT EVERYONE WILL KNOW!!!!!! She really is a traitor. A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA This is for all the kids born in the 70's and after who do not remember, and didn't have to bear the burden that our fathers, mothers and older brothers and sisters had to bear.. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the '100 Women of the Century.' BARBRA WALTERS WRITES: Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison the ' Hanoi Hilton.' Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American 'Peace Activist' the 'lenient and humane treatment' he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward on to the camp Commandant 's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied application of a wooden baton. >From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the ' Hanoi Hilton',,, the first three of which his family only knew he was 'missing in action'. His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and clothed routine in preparation for a 'peace delegation' visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they were alive and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security Number on it , in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: 'Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?' and 'Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?' Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat.. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him all the little pieces of paper.. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day. I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam , and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in Cambodia ; and one year in a 'black box' in Hanoi . My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Banme Thuot , South Vietnam , whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs) We were Jane Fonda's 'war criminals....' When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi , I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her.. I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received... and how different it was from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as 'humane and lenient.' Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched with a large steel weight placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She never did answer me. These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of '100 Years of Great Women.' Lest we forget....' 100 Years of Great Women' should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can.. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget. RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF 716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of Maintenance DSN: 875-6431 COMM: 883-6343 PLEASE HELP BY SENDING THIS TO EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. IF ENOUGH PEOPLE SEE THIS MAYBE HER STATUS WILL CHANGE -- Susan L. Ebling -- Susan L. Ebling -- Mary Anne Egan The Stettler Group, Inc. mae...@thestettlergroup.com (908) 806-3001 (908) 806-3113 Fax -- Susan L. 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