Well, I can't guarantee that it is at "project ready" status yet.  Still plenty to do. I would consider this more at the Alpha level than Beta.

I'll send the link when it is ready...

Pete


Richard Houston wrote:
That would be great! I have a project that we could really use this for.




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On Mon, October 17, 2005 10:36 am, Pete Helgren wrote:
  
Richard,


I'll see if I can get a site up with some info and with a download and
setup instructions.

Pete



Richard Houston wrote:


    
Hey Peter,


Your right, it is way more then just htmling the green screen, but in
it's most basic form that is one of the things it can do. We had to do
several labs at the tech preview I was talking about and I was able to
get a bunch of the "cool" HATS features going and I am not a programmer
at all. Licensing is not all that bad as well if you already are using
WebSphere.


For my client we are looking at just what web5250 is doing. Can I get a
 copy of the latest code and a quick how to set it up?




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On Fri, October 14, 2005 2:37 pm, Pete Helgren wrote:



      
Richard,



HATS and Web5250 are a little different from one another.  Web5250 is
 more like iSeries Access for Web, which I finally saw at Common last
month in Orlando.  Web5250 presents a "green screen" in a browser,
pretty much all.  Now, iSeries Access for Web does a heckofalot more
than that, but basically, that is it.

Screen shot like so: (I can't remember if they will display on the
list or not so I'll try it):



That is really all the Web5250 is.



I need to get a live link established and get my website updated to
show where this project is.  But, the concept is 5250 in a browser.
HATS (I
think) is more "invasive" in the look and feel area.

Pete




Richard Houston wrote:





        
Hi all,



Just wanted to chiming on this topic.



I was at a proof of technologies at IBM here on HATS
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/webservers/hats/



It basically turns the 5250 screens into pure HTML. The development
env only works on windows right now which suck for m 400 based
client as they run Linux on the desktop. Nice this about hats is
that there is no code changes required on the 400 side. You can
customize the layout and such as well so it can look nothing like
your green screen apps at all. Kind of
cool.

I, personally, would like to see some sort of OSS version out there
and I
think this is what web5250 we aiming for. Maybe with enough effort
web5250 could do the same. Just a thought.




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On Fri, October 14, 2005 9:48 am, Pete Helgren wrote:






          
Thanks Wim.




This sounds "exactly" like what I had in mind a couple of years
ago. Seems to me that the "mapping" concept would be fairly
straight-forward (probably a lot harder to do than it sounded...)
This
is very cool and Swing would be a good fit.



Have you looked at Java Server Faces at all?  I saw a demo of a
JSF
app that looked very "Swing-like" but was all HTML and mostly a
server side implementation.  I have been meaning to take a look at
it in more detail and see how difficult the coding is.  The
JSP/Struts/Tiles
approach has always been too complex to me and JSF *seemed* to
simplify that.  I need to take a look at it soon but it might
give you a richer-looking UI without the client side hassles of
Swing.  Mapping
to JSF components might be a possibility.  I'll look into it when
I
have a chance to see what you are doing.

One other idea I had in the "screen scraping" area was a "static"
 mapping option that would allow you to actually change the
component layout at the client end.  Rather than doing the
transformation on the fly, you could create "map file" and use
that instead.  Not sure how to implement that though.

Thanks for the information on the code pages and the good news on
the code page support in JT400.  That should take care of it!

Look forward to hearing more about the screen scraper....




Pete Helgren






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Hello Pete,




great to hear some acitivity from this corner.

The screenscraper works for one of our customers and is
tailored to their screen layouts. Still have to do some bugfixes
for them shortly, so I can send some screenshots on the list to
give an idea to what it looks like. We were now discussing
internally whether we were going to apply the scraper to our own
screens, or build some kind of Swing gui components on top of
the stream: a table for a subfile, a label for static text, a
textfield for fields etc. The idea is to be able to build swing
panels that read and write their data from the screen. The
buttons and menu's would call function keys etc to do screen
transitions and move to the next swing panel. What do you think?
For us it is just to be
able to quickly roll out GUIs until we find the time to
reengineer the apps in full GUI apps.

The 1200 codepage is provided in JT400. However I can not find
the 1208. I wonder however if those are supported if they're not
in de toolbox. Or are the numbers provider here not the AS/400
numberings?


Regards,
wim




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Gee....been kinda quiet around here.  Must mean we are all
gainfully employed and busy?

A couple of questions (just to blow the dust of the list!):




1. Wim, a while back you talked about a screenscraper project
you were involved in that used tn5250j components.  Where are
you on that?  I'd love to know what you are doing in that area
since I think tn5250j has some powerful tools in that would be
useful.

2. Also, in general, how hard is it to add code page support,
specifically for 1200 and 1208?  There was a post in
midrange.com from someone looking for an emulator that supported
those code pages.  I didn't see it in the list of supported code
pages (not in JT400 either).
I'd like to help this guy out if I could, I just don't know
how difficult it is to support other code pages.

Thanks!




Pete Helgren




P.S. Kenneth are you out there ?  How is it going?






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