thanks all, the comments given here have been great toward selecting
hardware for Tomcat/Apache web server in the following ways:

  * super fast and heavy hard disk access not so important if no database on
same machine
  * 64-bit cpu (such as opteron) could be quite significant choice (where
hard disk access is not primary)
  * load testing on development machine useful measurement in choosing
hardware for production system

-pl

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Sundling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: hardware recommendation, Tomcat with Apache web server


> I forgot to point out that in the test where opteron was beating xeon 2
> to 1, it was a 2.8 Ghz Xeon losing to a 1.6 Ghz Opteron!!!  So with
> almost half the clock speed it was twice as good as a Xeon.  That's
> impressive....
>
> > I found some benchmarks that used another app server, but it's the
> > same kind of software as tomcat, so it's a good comparison. The clear
> > answer is that a new opteron is what you should get and it's LITERALLY
> > twice as good in the role of an application server(like tomcat):
> >
> > http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1149817,00.asp
> >
> > "Our most important server test for comparing the Opteron to the Xeon
> > in an application server scenario is our 32-bit "Nile" application
> > server benchmark. The test is both CPU and disk-intensive, and it
> > emulates a book-ordering transaction-processing environment modeled on
> > Amazon.com. The test uses Oracle 9i as the back-end, running on a Xeon
> > 4P server, and uses BEA WebLogic Server 7.0.2 application server
> > software. The BEA application server software runs on the test
> > equipment – in this case we loaded it on both the 2P Opteron and 2P
> > Xeon systems, with Windows 2000 with SP3 as the OS. "
> >
> > " Results on the Nile benchmark showed the dual Opteron system
> > outperforming the dual Xeon by a fairly wide margin. Across a 300 to
> > 500 virtual user load, where transaction processing stabilized with
> > both high disk and CPU utilization, the Xeon averaged 7.6 Pages
> > Received per second, and the Opteron averaged 15.2 Pages Received per
> > second, double the Xeon. In the response time measurements, at the 200
> > user load, average transaction time (start to finish) was
> > approximately 34 seconds on the Xeon and 30 seconds on Opteron, but
> > moving to 300 users, Opteron stayed at 30 seconds, and Xeon moved to
> > 50 seconds. At 400 users, Opteron was 35 seconds, and Xeon was near 80
> > seconds. And at 500 users Opteron was about 50 seconds, and Xeon was
> > near 100 seconds. See Nile Benchmark charts below."
> >
> > 20-30 simultaneous users doesn't sound like much. Personally, I'd love
> > to get one of those new Opteron servers! 64 bit processor and when the
> > real 64 bit windows becomes available in a couple months it could
> > really scream and it'd scale up to huge levels of ram if you ever
> > needed it. Or it'd be 64 bit already with linux/bsd/solaris/....
> >
> > [you know you've been programming too long when you almost do Ctrl-s
> > (like in eclipse) when you're finished with something instead of
> > clickong on send]
> >
> > Paul wrote:
> >
>
>
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