Corrected I stand.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:36 PM
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Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer


Yes, you are wrong.  ColdFusion MX was entire rewritten in Java, and it
allows you to write JSP, Servlets and Java programs that you can use
within it.  It's become quite powerful now.

-----Original Message-----
From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:31 PM
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Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think Cold Fusion is dying (if not
already
dead) technology.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ruben Gamez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 03:23 PM
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Yes, well, I'm only asking for 1 1/2+ years experience in JSP & Servlets
and I'm still having trouble.  I was asking for ColdFusion as well, but
I've given up on that.  I'll just have to train the new developer on CF
later on.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:15 PM
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I agree. I worked for a place that listed C++ in all there job listings,

but there was not one line of C in the whole company. I asked who was
programming C, but they didn't know what I was talking about. LOL


Thank You,

Justin A. Stanczak
Web Manager
Shake Learning Resource Center
Vincennes University
(812)888-5813




"John B. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10/17/2003 03:10 PM
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Yeah, and those of "us" that do have the credentials get lost in the
"forest".  (Not to mention the observation that many of these "job
postings" want the person to have x years of experience in 6-7 different

areas, mostly unrelated and the total "experience" years exceeds most
normal human's productive lifespans, even accounting for reasonable
"overlap"...<G>)

    John..

Hart, Justin wrote:

>That's what I've found.  The market is full of tech workers, but that
doesn't mean that they're a programmer, or as familiar with technology X

(for position Y) as they should be.  I went to a job fair a couple years

ago for 4 job opennings, 2 for programmers.  2 for techs.  1000 people
showed up, and I spoke with only 4-5 that I really thought qualified for

the programming jobs or had credentials that showed that they qualified
for the job.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ruben Gamez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:57 PM
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>Subject: RE: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
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>
>I would think so, but it's true.  I've gotten several people that
>interview well, but none that can pass a couple of simple tests (I
>consider them simple).
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: epyonne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:55 PM
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>Subject: Re: Java/JSP/Servlet Programmer
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>Cannot find anyone?!?!?!  It is rather hard to believe based on current
>job
>market.
>
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>----- Original Message -----
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>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:33 PM
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>I'm looking for an experienced JSP/Servlet programmer located in our
>area.  We're located in West Palm Beach, FL.  We've tried posting the
>Job on Monster, and looking for candidates on there, but still cannot
>find someone that can do the job.
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