this is very true actually, i.e the old JSP stack trace errors and so on will 
not be directed into log4j-type logs .. that's not good at all i agree. And I 
know there is an exception occurring right now, but it's not being reported 
into the stdout. 
 
where is all the runtime exception stack tracing supposed to go Yoav? that 
won't be picked up by log4j which is a good point
 
cheers! 

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Jonathan Eric Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: Thu 11/11/2004 16:50 
        To: Tomcat Users List 
        Cc: 
        Subject: Re: Tomcat 5.5.4, Logging and the death of my friend 
localhost_log
        
        

        So, exceptions aren't logged by default? Does the new log4j method give 
you
        full stack traces, or, is it just one line error messages? If I don't
        configure log4j, does that mean that exceptions can be occurring and I 
won't
        know about it? IMHO, a decent default logging configuration should be
        provided by default. Not all of us are already experts in log4j...
        
        Jon
        
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Allistair Crossley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:41 AM
        Subject: RE: Tomcat 5.5.4, Logging and the death of my friend 
localhost_log
        
        
        > Hi again,
        >
        > I have tried to setup a file appender now without success. When I 
restart
        > Tomcat it is clear that it does not wish to create the file I am
        > specifying. I am wondering if Tomcat really is initialising the 
logging
        > subsystem from placing log4j.properties in common/classes. I could be
        > completely wrong and have missed something?
        >
        > log4j.rootLogger=debug, stdout, R
        > log4j.appender.stdout=org.apache.log4j.ConsoleAppender
        > log4j.appender.stdout.layout=org.apache.log4j.PatternLayout
        > log4j.appender.stdout.layout.ConversionPattern=%5p [%t] (%F:%L) - %m%n
        > log4j.appender.R=org.apache.log4j.RollingFileAppender
        > log4j.appender.R.File=d:/jakarta-tomcat-5.5.4/logs/catalina.log
        > log4j.appender.R.MaxFileSize=100KB
        > log4j.appender.R.MaxBackupIndex=1
        > log4j.appender.R.layout=org.apache.log4j.PatternLayout
        > log4j.appender.R.layout.ConversionPattern=%p %t %c - %m%n
        > log4j.logger.org.apache.catalina=DEBUG, R
        >
        > Cheers! A.
        >
        >> -----Original Message-----
        >> From: Allistair Crossley
        >> Sent: 11 November 2004 15:35
        >> To: Tomcat Users List
        >> Subject: RE: Tomcat 5.5.4, Logging and the death of my friend
        >> localhost_log
        >>
        >>
        >> Hey Yoav,
        >>
        >> tomcat/common/classes/log4j.properties as follows
        >>
        >> log4j.rootLogger=DEBUG, A1
        >> log4j.appender.A1=org.apache.log4j.ConsoleAppender
        >> log4j.appender.A1.layout=org.apache.log4j.PatternLayout
        >> log4j.appender.A1.layout.ConversionPattern=%d [%t] %-5p %c - %m%n
        >> log4j.logger.org.apache.catalina=DEBUG
        >>
        >> This was pretty much just copied from the link on the Tomcat
        >> Logging FAQ except I changed the log level and also
        >>
        >> log4j.logger.org.apache
        >>
        >> to
        >>
        >> log4j.logger.org.apache.catalina
        >>
        >> I will try to add a file based appender...
        >>
        >> Allistair.
        >>
        >> > -----Original Message-----
        >> > From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        >> > Sent: 11 November 2004 15:31
        >> > To: Tomcat Users List
        >> > Subject: RE: Tomcat 5.5.4, Logging and the death of my friend
        >> > localhost_log
        >> >
        >> >
        >> >
        >> > Hi,
        >> >
        >> > >I have tried what I believed to be how to do this, e.g I
        >> > placed a basic
        >> > >console appender log4j.properties file into
        >> tomcat/common/classes and
        >> > >popped log4j1.2.8 into the common/lib. No logging though.
        >> >
        >> > Where did you attach the console appender?  To the root
        >> > logger or on of
        >> > your own packaged?  Try creating an appender (probably a
        >> FileAppender)
        >> > and associated it with the org.apache logger.  If you want
        >> DEBUG-level
        >> > logging, set its level DEBUG.
        >> >
        >> > Enjoy Halo 2 ;)
        >> >
        >> > Yoav
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