Apologies.  A misunderstanding.
I have only one tomcat server.  The "different machines" in question
are different client machines.

Interestingly tomcat doesn't appear to be trying to put anything in
the cookie!!!  I have another page which uses javascript to manipulate
the cookie and (when I switch on your suggested option) IE prompts to 
ask whether I should allow it to store that cookie.  In no other 
circumstance does IE prompt to ask about storing a cookie.

So...  How is tomcat keeping track of my session?
Looks as though I may have to revert to your URL encode suggestion...

Thanks a lot
Huw


> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Kaufman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 02 May 2001 16:10
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: Problem with session tracking. Please help
> 
> 
> Are both the servers running on the same host?  This sounds 
> like a problem
> I've run into: since cookies are identified by host, all cookies named
> "JSESSIONID" from the same host are considered the same cookie.  
> 
> In my case, the servlets are running on different ports on 
> the same machine.
> I can't see anything in the cookie spec (RFC 2109) which lets 
> you segregate
> cookies by port, so I'm out of luck (and maybe you are, too, 
> if that's what
> you're doing).
> 
> If this isn't your case, try seeing what Tomcat is putting in 
> the JSESSIONID
> cookie.  A cheezy way to do this would be to use IE: in the security
> settings for your host, change the cookie settings to 
> "Prompt"; then, when
> hitting your site, you'll get an alert from which you can see 
> the cookie
> info.
> 
> 
>                                                             -- Bill K.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roberts Huw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:24 AM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: Problem with session tracking. Please help
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: William Kaufman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 02 May 2001 15:02
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: Problem with session tracking. Please help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 1) Does your browser have cookies enabled?  If not, you need 
> > > to rewrite all
> > > your URLs, using HttpServletResponse.encode[Redirect]URL().
> > > 
> > 
> > Yes it does have cookies enabled.  Supposing I decide to use the
> > above code, should I just stick it at the top of my JSP?
> > 
> > > 2) Are you defining a cookie or URL parameter names 
> > > "jsessionid"?  That one
> > > is used by Tomcat to keep track of the session, and shouldn't 
> > > be set by the
> > > servlet.
> > > 
> > 
> > I'm not doing either of these things.
> > 
> > > 3) Does HttpSession.getId() keep returning new IDs, and 
> > > HttpSession.isNew()
> > > keep returning "true" on each call to your servlet?
> > > 
> > 
> > No.  What seems to be happening is that a browser will "steal"
> > a previously existing session while it is still owned by another
> > browser.  
> > 
> > I have two machines "A" and "B".  "A" looks at the page and gets
> > a session id (e.g.)"A1" and isNew() returns true.  "A" then 
> refreshes 
> > the page a number of times.  session id is still "A1" and isNew()
> > returns false.  Everything is wonderful.  Browser "B" looks 
> > at the page
> > and gets a session id "B1".  isNew() returns true, but the objects 
> > attached to it are the objects that were
> > associated with session "A1".  If "A" then does a refresh then the
> > session id comes back as "B1" and the objects are the same objects.
> > From this point on the two browsers share the session and session id
> > and the objects attached to the session until the session is timed 
> > out by tomcat.
> > 
> > > As for documentation, the servlet spec goes into this 
> > stuff.  You can
> > > download it at,
> > > 
> > >     http://java.sun.com/products/servlet/download.html
> > > 
> > > 
> > >                                                             
> > -- Bill K.
> > > 
> > 
> > Thanks Bill.
> > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Roberts Huw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 3:21 AM
> > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > Subject: Problem with session tracking. Please help
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hi All,
> > > > 
> > > > We're having a problem with session tracking.
> > > > We are using tomcat pretty much "out of the box", without 
> > > integrating
> > > > with apache or anything like that.
> > > > We are attaching an attribute to the session which we want 
> > > (reasonably
> > > > enough) to be "per session".
> > > > We are then sending requests for information to tomcat 
> > from several
> > > > different client machines (sometimes logged on as the same 
> > > > user, sometimes
> > > > as different users, sometimes using Netscape, sometimes using 
> > > > IE).  All
> > > > machines are running Windows NT4.0.
> > > > 
> > > > What we are finding is that the Session objects are being 
> > > > indiscriminately
> > > > associated with the servlets.  We are getting the right 
> number of
> > > > session attributes created, but when we refresh the page we 
> > > find that
> > > > the new request is associated with the wrong session.
> > > > 
> > > > Help?  Is there anything obvious we are missing?  Is there a 
> > > > document on
> > > > how the session management works in tomcat?
> > > > 
> > > > We are using tomcat-3_3-m1
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks a lot,
> > > > Huw
> > > > 
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