John,

I see your frustration and it's understanable. But there are many
users in the world are using the Tomcat in the past years. How
come you become an unique one making such comment.

I suggest you calm down and allocate a plenty of time to get the
picture in terms of what you need to have and what are the
procedures you need to go through.

When every pieces of puzzle come to one picture you can say,
"Ah~"

Note that first, you need to know the differences between JSP and
Servlet from the very beginning to the point they executed. Then,
you will see the reasons why and hopely realized your prematured
comments.


Pae




----- Original Message -----
From: "john delby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: JDK is not enough. SDK is needed


>
> According to this page, it references j2se which is the JRE, the runtime.
If
> you're using Tomcat binaries and not compiling any Java, you would think
you
> only need the runtime libraries and not the whole SDK.
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~lampante/howto/tomcat/iisnt/#1
>
> Also Jakarta's site is one of the worst sites I visited. The home page
says
> nothing about Jakarta upfront. No intro about jakarta and what it's about.
> The first section is news. I mean what is Jakarta exactly? The FAQ says
> nothing about Tomcat. There's no 'requirements' section. Therefore I can't
> find out what I need to run Tomcat. For someone who just wants to use it,
> the resources are hidden in the site. There's no search function and the
> site is not easy to navigate. I hope it wasn't developed by a developer.
Web
> developers do not necessarily design good web pages.
>
> John
>
>
> >From: "Pae Choi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: JDK is not enough. SDK is needed
> >Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:26:36 -0800
> >
> >It sounds like that the < 10MB download is JRE and the >= 30MB is
> >JDK, Java SDK(or J2 SDK). I suggest you to learn the differences
> >between two first.
> >
> >The runtime environment does not necessarily require all packages,
> >e.g., tools.jar, as they do in the development environment.
> >
> >
> >Pae
> >
> > >
> > > One is a 30M download and one is less than 10M so obviously one has
more
> > > stuff in it... like tools.jar. If Tomcat fails to compile JSP pages
and
> >you
> > > have no idea why don't you think it's a problem when the instructions
> >talk
> > > about the JDK which does not include tools.jar when seems to be
> >necessary
> > > for compiling JSP?
> > >
> > > Maybe the installer should verify that all necessary components are
> >there
> > > before it finishes.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Pae Choi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: Re: JDK is not enough. SDK is needed
> > > >Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 05:19:28 -0800
> > > >
> > > >John,
> > > >
> > > >What is/are the difference(s) between JDK and Java SDK from your
> >viewpoint?
> > > >From what I understand, they are same, but the name just changed in
the
> > > >naming transition.
> > > >
> > > >I am guessing that your JDK may referring to JRE? :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Pae
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The instructions to install Tomcat under Windows indicated the
> > > >requirement
> > > > > to install the JAVA JDK. However I was having compile problems
with
> >JSP
> > > > > pages and learned that I needed tools.jar. JDK does not install
thie
> > > >file
> > > >so
> > > > > I was wondering how others are running Tomcat with JDK only. I
> >installed
> > > >the
> > > > > Java SDK and it included tools.jar and Tomcat ran fine. Why the
> > > >descrepency?
> > > > >
> > > > > John Delby
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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