> > I suggest you don't go to the "it works for many people.. why not you?" > direction. You'll get fired if you work in any customer service department.
Maybe it is a fact in your case. I don't fire my people just because a customer complains or did not respond to the cusotmers in a proper way. That I see as more my responsbility being not able to guide them in the right direction. > If you look at this active list, you'll notice many users are having many > problems with Tomcat. Why don't you also tell them, "Tomcat worked for many > people.. what's YOUR problem?". That's a fact, but in the different level. Not like a newbie who does not even know the difference betwenn JRE and Java SDK. > > Any software that needs Java, the runtime should be enough. If you need to > Run Java applets in the browser, you only need JRE. Isn't tomcat enough for that? Strange! I've been running Java applets/servlets without Java SDK. > I installed ServletExec which is a commercial Java JSP and Servlet engine > and it worked right off the bat with the full SDK. But I don't want to pay > $700 for it. I guess you get what you pay for. That's what I've mentioned in the previous message. Learn more about the basic stuff before complain about TOMCAT. If you don't appreciate the TOMCAT, no one will stop you go somewhere else. Pae > > John > > > > > > > >From: "Pae Choi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: JDK is not enough. SDK is needed > >Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 03:40:32 -0800 > > > >John, > > > >I see your frustration and it's understanable. But there are many > >users in the world are using the Tomcat in the past years. How > >come you become an unique one making such comment. > > > >I suggest you calm down and allocate a plenty of time to get the > >picture in terms of what you need to have and what are the > >procedures you need to go through. > > > >When every pieces of puzzle come to one picture you can say, > >"Ah~" > > > >Note that first, you need to know the differences between JSP and > >Servlet from the very beginning to the point they executed. Then, > >you will see the reasons why and hopely realized your prematured > >comments. > > > > > >Pae > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "john delby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 11:40 PM > >Subject: Re: JDK is not enough. SDK is needed > > > > > > > > > > According to this page, it references j2se which is the JRE, the > >runtime. > >If > > > you're using Tomcat binaries and not compiling any Java, you would think > >you > > > only need the runtime libraries and not the whole SDK. > > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~lampante/howto/tomcat/iisnt/#1 > > > > > > Also Jakarta's site is one of the worst sites I visited. The home page > >says > > > nothing about Jakarta upfront. No intro about jakarta and what it's > >about. > > > The first section is news. I mean what is Jakarta exactly? The FAQ says > > > nothing about Tomcat. There's no 'requirements' section. Therefore I > >can't > > > find out what I need to run Tomcat. For someone who just wants to use > >it, > > > the resources are hidden in the site. There's no search function and the > > > site is not easy to navigate. I hope it wasn't developed by a developer. > >Web > > > developers do not necessarily design good web pages. > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > >From: "Pae Choi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Subject: Re: JDK is not enough. SDK is needed > > > >Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:26:36 -0800 > > > > > > > >It sounds like that the < 10MB download is JRE and the >= 30MB is > > > >JDK, Java SDK(or J2 SDK). I suggest you to learn the differences > > > >between two first. > > > > > > > >The runtime environment does not necessarily require all packages, > > > >e.g., tools.jar, as they do in the development environment. > > > > > > > > > > > >Pae > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One is a 30M download and one is less than 10M so obviously one has > >more > > > > > stuff in it... like tools.jar. If Tomcat fails to compile JSP pages > >and > > > >you > > > > > have no idea why don't you think it's a problem when the > >instructions > > > >talk > > > > > about the JDK which does not include tools.jar when seems to be > > > >necessary > > > > > for compiling JSP? > > > > > > > > > > Maybe the installer should verify that all necessary components are > > > >there > > > > > before it finishes. > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Pae Choi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >Subject: Re: JDK is not enough. SDK is needed > > > > > >Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 05:19:28 -0800 > > > > > > > > > > > >John, > > > > > > > > > > > >What is/are the difference(s) between JDK and Java SDK from your > > > >viewpoint? > > > > > >From what I understand, they are same, but the name just changed in > >the > > > > > >naming transition. > > > > > > > > > > > >I am guessing that your JDK may referring to JRE? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Pae > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The instructions to install Tomcat under Windows indicated the > > > > > >requirement > > > > > > > to install the JAVA JDK. However I was having compile problems > >with > > > >JSP > > > > > > > pages and learned that I needed tools.jar. JDK does not install > >thie > > > > > >file > > > > > >so > > > > > > > I was wondering how others are running Tomcat with JDK only. I > > > >installed > > > > > >the > > > > > > > Java SDK and it included tools.jar and Tomcat ran fine. Why the > > > > > >descrepency? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Delby > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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