Hi Ed N1UR and others  ( W7RH   etc  )

Same opinion here.  How can we do to change this FT 8 syndrome.

It is same on 6 meters ,AND more and more on all bands.
You can listen to CW and SSB section on any bands and they are more or less 
silent.

If this continue , ft 8 has killed Ham radio for ever.

ALSO dx-expeditions keeps FT 8 running with one or few operators on many 
stations/bands at same time ,,,,,,,
without any present  action from the operator.   NO  ,We have to TRY to find a 
better
way to keep our hobby alive.

Kind regards and KEEP CLG CQ  on CW daily

Hans  SM6CVX

> 1 juni 2026 kl. 20:03 skrev Ed Sawyer - N1UR via Topband 
> <[email protected]>:
> 
> I gave up on 160M DXing about 4 years ago when just about every DXpedition 
> was doing the 160 contacts on FT8.  Not everyone, but literally 90%.  It just 
> got way too frustrating to see DXpedition after DXpedition talk about getting 
> on 160 and "maybe" doing one night with CW and then complaining how hard it 
> was and doing the rest as FT8.  Or skipping the one night altogether.  If you 
> aren't willing to do FT8 on 160 or 6M, just "hang up the skates and call it a 
> day" on DXing either of those 2 bands.
> 
> As an active contester, I have a formidable 160M presence and keep it up for 
> that purpose.  Last I heard, only CW contacts count in 160M CW contests 😊
> 
> Phased T top verticals separated by 1/2 wavelength with 60 radials under 
> each.  Beverages in numerous directions on 25 VERY quiet acres here in 
> Vermont.  I actually abandoned my SW and SE beverages as they were only used 
> for DXing.  Now I have N/S, NE, W, and JA.
> 
> It is very sad that 160 DXing has come to an end for many of us.  There was 
> nothing better on a cold snowy winter night.  Sigh....
> 
> Ed  N1UR
> 
> 
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